Aquaponics Digest - Mon 02/21/00
Message 1: breeders
from "Steve"
Message 2: S&S System
from "Steve"
Message 3: Trout, Maron
from Attie Esterhuysen
Message 4: Re: Trout, Maron
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 5: Thank you Ron And Sam
from "beacnhrt"
Message 6: Re: Trout, Maron
from "Sam Levy"
Message 7: Re: Thank you Ron And Sam
from "Sam Levy"
Message 8: barley straw & trout
from laberge@cil.qc.ca (LABERGE MARC)
Message 9: RE: Thank you Ron And Sam
from "Ron Brooks"
Message 10: trout.Maron
from laberge@cil.qc.ca (LABERGE MARC)
Message 11: Re: Thank you Ron And Sam
from "TGTX"
Message 12: Re: trout.Maron
from "TGTX"
Message 13: tilapia in Canada
from laberge@cil.qc.ca (LABERGE MARC)
Message 14: Re: Thank you Ron And Sam
from "Bennett"
Message 15: unsubscribe
from GShaver472
Message 16: Harvest time
from "Ron Brooks"
Message 17: Re: trout.Maron
from Chris Weaver
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Subject: breeders
From: "Steve"
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 01:17:33 -0600
Hi Bert,
I know you are out there somewhere. If you read this post, contact me
offline @ careplus@execpc.com. I deleted your email address after your last
post.
I am concerned about your lack of success with your breeders. I cannot
imagine the "Black Knights" not breeding for 18 months. Since I last spoke
with you, I have 4 more pregnant mamas.
I am concerned that you did not follow "1" fundamental step.
If you read this, contact me.
Thanks.......Steve (p.s.) does this read o.k. Paula??
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Subject: S&S System
From: "Steve"
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 01:29:02 -0600
Hi Paula,
This is your favorite pest.
I may have the opportunity to test your system sooner than anticipated.One
of my 800 gal is full and I have 300 babies in 10 gal's growing and I have,
I thought 2, 4 pregnant mama's as we speak and that will be another 400
babies...I'm running out of room.
Would love to test your system. Wow, can you imagine a Paula & Steve
consortium......scary.....besides that, all kidding aside, would love to
have you in my corner to answer questions. See, when I mentioned what a
great moderator you are...see the response you got.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT?? THEY WERE ALL CORRECT!!
Kidding aside...contact me offline at: careplus@execpc.com
and let me know what i have to do and the cost of your system.
Thanks a million.......Stevre
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Subject: Trout, Maron
From: Attie Esterhuysen
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:11:22 GMT
Dear friends
I am new to the list and do not practice aquaculture but am
very interested in this farming method. I grew up on a farm
in the semi dessert region of South Africa, the Karoo, and
currently am working at the Cape Technikon as a technician
in Mechanical Engineering. Since efficient water usage was
always very important on the farm, I came to realize that
aquaculture may be the answer. Since the specific region is
very cold in winter and dry and not so warm in summer,
highest temperature of 30 degrees Celsius, I thought that
maybe trout is the answer. Does anybody have experience with
farming Trout combined with lettuce or strawberries? Also,
did anyone tried farming Maron in a closed loop water
system.
Best regards
Attie Esterhuyse
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Subject: Re: Trout, Maron
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 07:39:29 -0500
> maybe trout is the answer. Does anybody have experience with
> farming Trout combined with lettuce or strawberries?
Welcome Attie,
The United States Dept of Agriculture Agricultural Research Station in
Kearneysville West Virginia has done aquaponic research using trout
effluent. They grew both strawberries and lettuce. It was not a
recirculating system. They trucked trout effluent to the facility and
used it in nutrient film troughs and vertical growing systems. The
purpose of their research was to demonstrate the effectiveness of the
plants to remove excess nutrients from the trout effluent.
Adriana Gutierrez
Sarasota, FL
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Subject: Thank you Ron And Sam
From: "beacnhrt"
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 06:58:58 -0600
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Subject: Re: Trout, Maron
From: "Sam Levy"
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 07:09:38 PST
Since the specific region is very cold in winter and dry and not so warm in
summer,highest temperature of 30 degrees Celsius, I thought that maybe trout
is the answer.
>Attie Esterhuyse
i believe that 30 degrees c is pretty much too hot for trout--what are your
winter temperatures. if you can get advanced juveniles, you might raise
trout in the winter & culture something else that you can successfully over
winter & and grow out the other half-year
sam
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Subject: Re: Thank you Ron And Sam
From: "Sam Levy"
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 07:11:41 PST
It's good to know about these other fish as the Mayan Method my be used
anywhere in the world. Of course turtles are also still a possibility.
>Mel vin Landers
just a late thought, but you might manage to do something w/crayfish as well
sam
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Subject: barley straw & trout
From: laberge@cil.qc.ca (LABERGE MARC)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:20:06 -0500
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone can confirm that their is no danger to trout
health, nor any off tastes to the fish if I use the recommended amounts of
barley straw to get rid of algae in a pay-per-inch rainbow trout pond. I
read all the data I.B.M. but nobody talked about trout, and since they are
super sensitive fish I figured I would refer to the group.
Oh..by the way..thank you James Rakocy at UVI I really appreciated the info
about growing ratios.
Marc Laberge
Mont Tremblant
Québec Canada
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Subject: RE: Thank you Ron And Sam
From: "Ron Brooks"
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:24:20 -0500
That's true , the Australian Red Claw , Cherax quadricarinatus , can get up
to a pound an a half
Ron
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Subject: trout.Maron
From: laberge@cil.qc.ca (LABERGE MARC)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:38:06 -0500
Hi Attie,
I live at the other end of the planet and I am also working with trout
and lettuce. I'm working on water chemistry and biofiltration equilibrium
of a 99.9% closed system at 15C. I am very new to the plant part of
aquaponics and reli on this group for many things .
Marc Laberge
Mont Tremblant
Québec Canada
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Subject: Re: Thank you Ron And Sam
From: "TGTX"
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:20:18 -0600
Hi Ron,
Am I right that you prefer the Red Claw (C. quad..)over the Yabbie (C.
destructor) and the Marron( C. whatever, 'cause I forgot)? I think I'm
gonna do the Red Claw thing just for my own personal cuisine/novelty
requirements. Can you tell us about your experiences with these Australian
mud bugs re: space, territoriality, diet, hardiness, compatibility in
polyculture with the Tilapia, etc...?
Ted
> That's true , the Australian Red Claw , Cherax quadricarinatus , can get
up
> to a pound an a half
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> Ron
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Subject: Re: trout.Maron
From: "TGTX"
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:21:51 -0600
Marc, are you working with Northern Tilapia up in Canada?
If not, whatever happened to them, do you know?
Ted
> Hi Attie,
> I live at the other end of the planet and I am also working with trout
> and lettuce. I'm working on water chemistry and biofiltration equilibrium
> of a 99.9% closed system at 15C. I am very new to the plant part of
> aquaponics and reli on this group for many things .
>
> Marc Laberge
> Mont Tremblant
> Québec Canada
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Subject: tilapia in Canada
From: laberge@cil.qc.ca (LABERGE MARC)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 12:05:10 -0500
Not me Ted, I'm not aware of any Tilapia in Québec but one of the members on
this list grows Tilapia and lettuce just south of Toronto.
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Subject: Re: Thank you Ron And Sam
From: "Bennett"
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:25:19 -0500
Is there a market for turtles for meat in the USA? If so, what kinds of
turtles work best?
D.Bennett
It's good to know about these other fish as the Mayan Method my be
used anywhere in the world. Of course turtles are also still a possibility.
There are a couple large growers near here I can talk to.
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Subject: unsubscribe
From: GShaver472
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:30:55 EST
unsubscribe
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Subject: Harvest time
From: "Ron Brooks"
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:58:21 -0500
Well I started my harvest. And I am averaging one pound nine ounces with a
ten ounce set of fillets per fish. Next week sometime I will have to run the
numbers and see how I did on feed conversion. Now my only problem is getting
the skins off :)I keep sharpening my knife in between each fish side , and
still those darn skins don't want to let go
Ron
The One Who Walks Two Paths
ICQ 44273171
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Subject: Re: trout.Maron
From: Chris Weaver
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 22:31:22 -0500
Ted:
Northern Tilapia is still going strong. I used to work for the company before I
opened up my own farm (what was I thinking). They just expanded their fish
production side of things and still sell a number of fry to other producers as
well. If there is anything specific that you want to know, I can forward an
e-mail to the company president.
Sincerely,
Chris Weaver
TGTX wrote:
> Marc, are you working with Northern Tilapia up in Canada?
> If not, whatever happened to them, do you know?
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> Ted
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