Aquaponics Digest - Tue 03/14/00
Message 1: Re: more turtle stuff
from "beacnhrt"
Message 2: Re: Re: Lettuce, type??
from "James Rakocy"
Message 3: RE: Seed company URLS request, was Re: seeds
from "William G Brown"
Message 4: Re: Seed company URLS request
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 5: tanks
from "timjohanns"
Message 6: wrigglers
from "timjohanns"
Message 7: Re: wrigglers
from "beacnhrt"
Message 8: reply to worms
from "timjohanns"
Message 9: Re: reply to worms
from "beacnhrt"
Message 10: worms more
from "timjohanns"
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Subject: Re: more turtle stuff
From: "beacnhrt"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:16:37 -0600
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From: Lloyd R. Prentice
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
Date: Monday, March 13, 2000 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: more turtle stuff
> where is the market for snapping turtles? Who buys them
>and why?
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Lloyd
Turtles taste great and are served in gourmet eateries in many parts of the
country, especially in the South. The problem with this is that the turtles
are all taken from the wild and that is decreasing their populations
severely in many places. Thus, the importance of Tims work. I don't recall
why Bennett is interested, but, I am trying to get information to pass on to
subsistance farmers to allow them to raise them for their families.
melvin landers
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Subject: Re: Re: Lettuce, type??
From: "James Rakocy"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:19:27 -0400
Jed Brown just received his Ph.D. from the Environmental Research Lab at the
University of Arizona. He used halophytes (plants that tolerate saline
waters) to purify water in a recirculating marine system. He would have
data on how much salt these plants can remove.( brown@ag.arizona.edu) He may
have moved on to another institution. You could call the lab at
520-741-1990. Jim R.
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From: Attie Esterhuysen
To:
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Lettuce, type??
>
>
> > I would not use any chloride compounds. Rather use KOH to
> neutralize acid
> > produced in the nitrification process. We alternate KOH
> with Ca(OH)2 and
> > our K levels average about 100 mg/L. Jim R.
>
> Dear Jim
>
> I found this interesting site on the web,
> http://www.ratical.com/LifeWeb/Articles/rushes.html
> Could you comment on this? Do you think it would be possible
> to remove NaCl from aquaculture water by making use of a
> plant like the yellow flag?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Attie
>
>
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Subject: RE: Seed company URLS request, was Re: seeds
From: "William G Brown"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:42:39 -1000
Title: B & T World Seeds
URL: http://b-and-t-world-seeds.com/
Title: Burpee
URL: http://www.burpee.com/main.html
Title: Ed Hume Seeds Garden Site
URL: http://www.humeseeds.com/welcome.htm
Title: Gardening List WWW
URL: http://www.mertus.org/gardening/cat16/
Title: Peaceful Valley
URL: http://www.groworganic.com/
Title: Harris Seeds - Vegetable Seed
URL: http://www.harrisseeds.com/vegetable.htm
Title: Ingegnoli
URL: http://italcont.com/ingegnoli/
Title: NK Seeds
URL: http://www.nk.com/index.cfm
Title: Richters
URL: http://www.richters.com/
Title: Blum Seed
URL: http://www.seedsblum.com/w3_onlin.htm
Title: Thompson Morgan
URL: http://www.thompson-morgan.com/inc/home.html
Title: J.W. Jung Seed Company - Jung Quality Seeds, URL:
http://www.jungseed.com/
Title: Johnny's Selected Seed
URL: http://www.johnnyseeds.com
Title: Lonestar Seed Company - San Antonio, Texas
URL: http://www.lonestarseed.com/
Title: Park Seed
URL: http://www.parkseed.wte.net/
Title: Pinetree Garden Seeds Welcome.html
URL: http://www.maine.com/seeds/
Title: Pinetree Home Page
URL: http://www.superseeds.com/
Title: Redwood City Seed Company price list
URL: http://www.batnet.com/rwc-seed/
Title: Seed Sources for Salad Gardeners
URL: http://www.bbg.org/gardening/kitchen/salads/seeds.ht
m
Title: SEEDS WEST GARDEN SEEDS 1999
URL: http://www.seedswestgardenseeds.com/
Title: Stokes Seeds
URL: http://www.stokeseeds.com
Title: Territorial Seed Company
URL: http://www.territorial-seed.com/
Title: The Bethlehem Seed Company
URL: http://bethlehemseed.com/
Title: Thompson and Morgan Ltd
URL: http://www.thompson-morgan.com/tm/home.html
Title: Ledden Brothers
URL: http://www.leddens.com/
Title: Totally Tomatoes
URL: http://www.totallytomato.com/
Title: Vesey's Seeds Ltd
URL: http://www.veseys.com/
Title: Gurney's Seed & Nursery Company
URL: http://www.gurneys.com/
Title: Liberty Seed Company
URL: http://www.libertyseed.com/
Title: Shepherd's Garden Seeds
URL: http://www.shepherdseeds.com/
Title: Victory Seed Company
URL: http://www.victoryseeds.com/
Title: Willhite Seed
URL: http://www.willhiteseed.com/
Title: Sheffield's Seed Company
URL: http://www.sheffields.com/index.html
Title: World Seed
URL: http://www.worldseed.com/worldseed/default.asp
Title: World Wide Exotic Seed Company
URL: http://www.seedman.com/WWseeds.html
Evergreen Y. H. Enterprises in Anaheim,Ca. e-mail address is
eeseeds.
Seed Sources for Salad Gardeners
Alfrey Seeds
P.O. Box 415
Knoxville, TN 37901
Pepper specialists, especially chile varieties.
Seed list for SASE.
Allen, Sterling & Lothrop
191 U.S. Rte. 1
Falmouth, ME 04105-1385
Standard varieties of vegetables and flowers.
Catalog $1, refundable with order.
Berlin Seeds
5371 County Road 77
Millersbury, OH 44654
Standard varieties of vegetables and flowers.
Catalog free.
Bountiful Gardens Seeds
18001 Shafer Ranch Road
Willits, CA 95490
Heirloom vegetable specialist; untreated seeds.
Catalog free.
W. Atlee Burpee & Co.
300 Park Avenue
Warminster, PA 18974
Wide selection of vegetables and flowers.
Catalog free.
Butterbrooke Farm
78 Barry Road
Oxford, CT 06483
Untreated, open-pollinated vegetable seeds grown
using bio-dynamic methods.
Seed list $1.
Companion Plants
7246 North Coolville Ridge Road
Athens, OH 45701
Culinary, medicinal and ornamental herbs.
Catalog $3.
The Cook's Garden
P.O. Box 535
Londonderry, VT 05148
Salad-garden specialist.
Catalog free.
Cross Seed Co.
109 9th St.
Bunker Hill, KS 67626
Seeds for sprouting.
Price list $1, refundable with order.
Deep Diversity
P.O. Box 15189
Santa Fe, NM 87506-5189
Open-pollinated vegetables and flowers.
Catalog $4.
DeGiorgi Seed Company
6011 N St.
Omaha, NE 68117-1634
Wide selection of vegetables and flowers.
Catalog $2.
Down on the Farm Seed
P.O. Box 184
Hiram, OH 44234
Open-pollinated standard and heirloom varieties.
Catalog free.
Evergreen Y.H. Enterprises
P.O. Box 17538
Anaheim, CA 92817
Asian vegetables.
Catalog $2, refundable with order.
Fedco Seeds
P.O. Box 520
Waterville, ME 04903
Untreated vegetable and flower seeds for cold short
seasons.
Catalog $2.
Field & Forest Products, Inc.
N3296 Kozuzerk Road
Peshitigo, WI 54157
Mushroom specialist.
Catalog $2, refundable with order.
Filaree Farm
182 Conconully Hwy.
Okanogan, WA 98840
filaree@northcascades.net
http://www.filareefarm.com
Garlic specialist.
Catalog $2.
Fungi Perfecti
P.O. Box 7634
Olympia, WA 98507
Mushroom specialist.
Catalog $3, refundable with order.
Garden City Seeds
778 US Highway 93 N
Victor, MT 59840
seeds@montana.com
Cold-tolerant, untreated vegetables and flowers.
Catalog free.
The Gourmet Gardener
8650 College Boulevard
Overland Park, KS 66210
Vegetables and edible flowers from around the world.
Catalog $2, refundable with order.
Harris Seeds
60 Saginaw Drive
Rochester, NY 14623
Wide selection of vegetables and flowers.
Catalog free.
High Altitude Gardens-Seeds Trust
P.O. Box 1048
Hailey, ID 83333
Vegetables and flowers for short, cool seasons.
Catalog $3, refundable with order.
J.L. Hudson, Seedsman
P.O. Box 1058
Redwood City, CA 94064
Uncommon vegetables and flowers from around the
world.
Catalog $1.
Johnny's Selected Seeds
Foss Hill Road
Albion, ME 04910
Wide selection of vegetables and flowers.
Catalog free.
J.W. Jung Seed Co.
Randloph, WI 53957
Wide selection of vegetables and flowers.
Catalog free.
Kitazawa Seed Company
1111 Chapman St.
San Jose, CA 95126
Asian vegetables.
Catalog free.
Kalmia Farm
P.O. Box 3881
Charlottesville, VA 22903-0881
Shallots, hardy multiplier and topsetting onions.
Catalog free.
Le Jardin du Gourmet
P.O. Box 7H
St. Johnsbury Center, VT 05863
European vegetable varieties specialist.
Catalog free.
Liberty Seed Company
Box 805
New Philadelphia, OH 44663
Wide selection of vegetables and herbs.
Catalog free.
Meadowbrook Herb Garden
93 Kingstown Road
Wyoming, RI 02898
Herb specialist.
Price list for SASE.
Native Seeds/SEARCH
2059 No. Campbell #325
Tucson, AZ 85719
Traditional Southwestern vegetables.
Catalog $1.
Nichols Garden Nursery
1190 No. Pacific Hwy.
Alband, OR 97321-4580
Vegetables and herbs for the Pacific Northwest.
Catalog free.
Park Seed Co.
Cokesbury Road
Greenwood, SC 29647-0001
Wide selection of vegetables and flowers.
Catalog free.
Pinetree Garden Seeds
P.O. Box 300
New Gloucester, ME 04260
Wide selection of vegetables and flowers.
Catalog free.
Plants of the Southwest
Agua Fria, Rt. 6, Box 11-A
Santa Fe, NM 87501
Traditional Southwestern vegetables and flowers.
Catalog $3.50.
Redwood City Seed Company
P.O. Box 361
Redwood City, CA 94064
Endangered and traditional vegetables.
Catalog $1.
Richters
357 Hwy. 47, Goodwood,
ONT L0C 1A0
Canada
Herb specialist. Catalog $2.
Seed Savers Exchange
Flower and Herb Exchange
3076 North Winn Road
Decorah, IA 52101
Cooperative; open-pollinated vegetables, flowers and
herbs.
Information on SSE $1; information on FHE free.
Seeds Blum
Idaho City Stage
Boise, ID 83706
Open-pollinated and heirloom vegetable specialist.
Catalog $3.
Seeds of Change
621 Old Santa Fe Trail #10
Santa Fe, NM 87501
Open-pollinated heirloom and native vegetables, herbs
and flowers.
Catalog free.
Seeds West Garden Seeds
P.O. Box 27057
Albuquerque, NM 87125-7075
Short-season vegetables, flowers and herbs.
Catalog free.
Shepherd's Garden Seeds
6116 Highway 9
Felton, CA 95018-9709
Gourmet vegetables and flowers.
Catalog free.
Southern Exposure Seed Exchange
P.O. Box 170
Earlysville, VA 22936
Heirloom vegetables and flowers for southern gardens.
Catalog $2, refundable with order.
Southern Seeds
P.O. Box 2091
Melbourne, FL 32902
Open-pollinated vegetables for southern gardens.
Catalog $1.
Stokes Seeds Inc.
Box 548
Buffalo, NY 14240-0548
Wide selection of vegetables and flowers.
Catalog free.
Territorial Seed Company
P.O. Box 157
Cottage Grove, OR 97424
Vegetables for year-round gardening.
Catalog free.
Thompson and Morgan
Dept PR95
Jackson, NJ 08527
Wide selection of flowers and vegetables.
Catalog free.
Tomato Growers Supply Company
P.O. Box 2237
Fort Myers, FL 33902
Catalog free.
Totally Tomatoes
P.O. Box 1626
Augusta, GA 30903
Catalog free.
Otis S. Twilley Seed Company
121 Gary Rd.
Hodges, SC 29653
Web: http://www.twilleyseed.com/
E-mail: twilley@emeraldis.com Wide selection of
hybrid vegetables.
Catalog free.
Vesey's Seeds Ltd.
York, PEI C0A 1P0
Canada
Vegetables and flowers for short seasons. Catalog
free.
William G Brown mahiwai@cmpmail.con
-----Original Message-----
From: aquaponics
[mailto:aquaponics]On Behalf Of S & S Aqua Farm
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 2:36 PM
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
Subject: Seed company URLS request, was Re: seeds
At 09:37 PM 03/12/2000 -0800, you wrote:
>Iowa has a lot of cold days and is considered low light, does anyone have a
>source for seeds that would accomodate these conditions ( low light and
>solar greenhouse conditions such as those fo Hawaii, addresses? catalogs?
>phone numbers etc, luv some info and help. TIA bioman
Tim - I've run into a mental block trying to locate my listing of seed
sources (this will not surprise some of you -- my mental blocks seem to come
more frequently these days, sometimes referred to as having a "senior
moment" -- "I've lost my file, and I can't pick it up!), so I'm asking
members to please post those seed company URL's they have so that we might
work toward posting a comprehensive listing. All comments eagerly solicited
as to the benefits and/or cautions you might offer as well.
If you'll review the major US company catalogs, you'll often see products
referred to as "short season". We've found these varieties to generally be
acceptable in conditions such as you describe. The Early Cascade salad
tomato and Sweet Gypsy pepper are two of my favorites.
Do have have specific crops in mind? This will generally bring out more
comments than just for "seeds" at large, but at this point I'd welcome all
the input we can get just so I can finally summarize these sources (and this
time put them in a file where I can actually FIND them the next time it's
asked).
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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Subject: Re: Seed company URLS request
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:54:07 -0500
Hi guys, I've been under the weather lately and unable to follow the
e-mails closely. Has anybody mentioned this huge database of Plants by
Mail? Not only does it have a massive list of plant and seed suppliers,
it has individual buyers' comments on their experiences with the
companies.
http://pbmfaq.dvol.com/list/
Adriana
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Subject: tanks
From: "timjohanns"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 21:12:06 -0800
will it make any difference if I use a clear ie white plastic tank for
tilapia as opposed to a solid black tank? The one I have is a 1050 gallon
tank normally used as water tanks for farming chemical applications. It's
new and is totally enclosed on top with a dome-like structure and a hole,
the top could be cut off without compromising the tanks integrity and cost
248.00 dimensions are 7'x 4' tall
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Subject: wrigglers
From: "timjohanns"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 21:27:17 -0800
OK, I realize someone else probably thought of this already so please
enlighten me. Why don't people raising tilapia feed them red wrigglers if
they are 70% protien as opposed to 40% fish food, are they not complete
protiens or what am I missing here, worms are free, and grow prolifically on
greenhouse scraps, too perfect world?
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Subject: Re: wrigglers
From: "beacnhrt"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:24:19 -0600
Say Tim,
I can't comment on worms for Tilapia, But, you gave me an idea about
turtles. You said earlier that they grow quickly on 40% feed. Would they
grow even faster on worms? Any of those subsistance farmers I am trying to
help could grow worms.
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From: timjohanns
To: aquaponics
Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 9:21 PM
Subject: wrigglers
>OK, I realize someone else probably thought of this already so please
>enlighten me. Why don't people raising tilapia feed them red wrigglers if
>they are 70% protien as opposed to 40% fish food, are they not complete
>protiens or what am I missing here, worms are free, and grow prolifically
on
>greenhouse scraps, too perfect world?
>
>
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Subject: reply to worms
From: "timjohanns"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:46:06 -0800
you're welcome but hey tilapia growers, like why not worms? inquiring
minds...
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Subject: Re: reply to worms
From: "beacnhrt"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:06:57 -0600
Tim,
Have you tried worms as feed for your turtles?
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From: timjohanns
To: aquaponics
Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 10:40 PM
Subject: reply to worms
>you're welcome but hey tilapia growers, like why not worms? inquiring
>minds...
>
>
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Subject: worms more
From: "timjohanns"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:17:33 -0800
no we haven't employed worms as feed as of yet, but i'm sure they would eat
them, they eat raw liver and will fight over it
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