Aquaponics Digest - Thu 03/16/00
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Date:
Fri, 17 Mar 2000 00:00:00 -0600
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Message 1: Re: advice on tanks
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 2: Re: advice on tanks
from Sojourner
Message 3: Re: wrigglers
from "TGTX"
Message 4: Re: Wholesale prices
from CAVM
Message 5: Re: advice on tanks
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 6: Tilapia prices, was Re: wrigglers
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 7: Fish Food
from Mike Hirschfield
Message 8: Re: Wholesale prices
from "James Rakocy"
Message 9: Re: Fw: [IR-L] Algae in hydroponics
from Sunpeer
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Subject: Re: advice on tanks
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 07:15:16 -0500
> I've been offered a very large quantity of small plastic tubs/tanks.
> These containers hold about 22-24 gallons, have rounded bottoms, are long
> and only about 10 - 12 inches deep. Do you think they would acceptable to
> start my first mini trial aquaponic system?
Sometime in the last year, Growing Edge featured a hydroponic Y2K garden
using large rubber tubs, so I think it would definitely work. Some type
of drip system would probably be better than flood and drain however
because of the large number of containers involved.
Adriana
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Subject: Re: advice on tanks
From: Sojourner
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:26:07 -0600
Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta wrote:
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> > I've been offered a very large quantity of small plastic tubs/tanks.
> > These containers hold about 22-24 gallons, have rounded bottoms, are long
> > and only about 10 - 12 inches deep. Do you think they would acceptable to
> > start my first mini trial aquaponic system?
>
> Sometime in the last year, Growing Edge featured a hydroponic Y2K garden
> using large rubber tubs, so I think it would definitely work. Some type
> of drip system would probably be better than flood and drain however
> because of the large number of containers involved.
Are these tubs for the fish or the plants? If they're for the fish,
aren't they kind of small?
--
Holly ;-D
Contrary Peasant
sojournr@missouri.org
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Subject: Re: wrigglers
From: "TGTX"
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:53:21 -0600
> >Last night in Krogers I saw frozen tilapia fillets for
> >sale for $0.41 per ounce, that's $6.56 per pound!
> > D.Bennett
> >
>
> you saw the final sale price to the consumer--not the price the farm was
> paid for growing the fish. the farm could have easily recieved 1/3 of the
> the final sale price
>
> sam
Yes, Indeed, Sam, the U.S. price for Tilapia at the farm gate, sold to
wholesale distributors can be discouraging. Ask Robert Schmidt at Simaron
in Hempstead, Texas. If it costs you $0.45/lb to produce, and you sell it
whole to a distributor for $1.00 or a little more/lb, that is obviously not
as good as selling it live to the oriental markets or to chefs....
My take.
Ted
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Subject: Re: Wholesale prices
From: CAVM
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:06:18 EST
In a message dated 3/16/2000 6:57:35 AM Central Standard Time,
ground@thrifty.net writes:
> If it costs you $0.45/lb to produce, and you sell it
> whole to a distributor for $1.00 or a little more/lb, that is obviously
not
> as good as selling it live to the oriental markets or to chefs....
>
If the above is a realistic representation of the market, how can a grower
expect a decent return on his time and capital investments? Is it common for
a grower to sell over 100,000 llbs per year?
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Subject: Re: advice on tanks
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:24:08 -0500
> Are these tubs for the fish or the plants? If they're for the fish,
> aren't they kind of small?
The tubs would be used for the plants. They would also work for
goldfish, which more than one beginner has used in setting up a trial
aquaponics system.
Adriana
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Subject: Tilapia prices, was Re: wrigglers
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 07:41:02 -0600
At 06:53 AM 03/16/2000 -0600, Ted wrote:
>Yes, Indeed, Sam, the U.S. price for Tilapia at the farm gate, sold to
>wholesale distributors can be discouraging. Ask Robert Schmidt at Simaron
>in Hempstead, Texas. If it costs you $0.45/lb to produce, and you sell it
>whole to a distributor for $1.00 or a little more/lb, that is obviously not
>as good as selling it live to the oriental markets or to chefs....
>
The reduction in US live tilapia prices is one more reason to push for
direct sales. I hope the group will clarify this and site specific
strategies they're following. I'll be out-of-pocket for a couple days, but
look forward to the results of this exchange when I return.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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Subject: Fish Food
From: Mike Hirschfield
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:03:56 -0600
Drive Interstate 43 S to Clinton...Delongs has high protien for $18 / 50#
bag. Didn't all your fish die a month ago?
Mike
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Subject: Re: Wholesale prices
From: "James Rakocy"
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:34:08 -0400
For tilapia alone, 100,000 lbs. is a relatively small operation for a
full-time producer. Vegetables improve the picture as we earn two thirds of
our money from them. The majority of farmers in the U.S. have small-scale
operations, often to supplement family income from full-time jobs. There
really is no limit on the smallness of an operation. Jim R.
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Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: Wholesale prices
> In a message dated 3/16/2000 6:57:35 AM Central Standard Time,
> ground@thrifty.net writes:
>
> > If it costs you $0.45/lb to produce, and you sell it
> > whole to a distributor for $1.00 or a little more/lb, that is
obviously
> not
> > as good as selling it live to the oriental markets or to chefs....
> >
>
>
> If the above is a realistic representation of the market, how can a grower
> expect a decent return on his time and capital investments? Is it common
for
> a grower to sell over 100,000 llbs per year?
>
>
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Subject: Re: Fw: [IR-L] Algae in hydroponics
From: Sunpeer
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:04:00 EST
Greetings:
>I am wondering if anyone has been able to get rid of blue algae in NFT (or
> the like) hydroponic systems.
I grow Salina lettuce in rockwool on open (uncovered) NFT gutters and the
algae problem can be terrible. I found that a slight pinch of Agribroom, a
bromine based algaecide, in the system helps. Good sanitation between crops
is a must. If I had to build a new system, I certainly would look at the
covered growing trays even though they are priced out of sight I think some
of the folks on the list have been using hydrogen peroxide successfully.
Monte
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