Aquaponics Digest - Sun 03/14/99
Message 1: Re: Grapes
from "Ted Ground"
Message 2: blueberries
from Jennifer Grunest
Message 3: Re: Grapes
from Adriana Gutierrez
Message 4: Pest management
from Adriana Gutierrez
Message 5: Re: blueberries
from Gordon Watkins
Message 6: Re: Grapes
from KLOTTTRUE
Message 7: Re: Pest management
from KLOTTTRUE
Message 8: Re: Pest management
from "Ted Ground"
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Subject: Re: Grapes
From: "Ted Ground"
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 09:09:18 -0600
Ken,
The closest I have come to growing grapes with an irrigation system was
when I planted a vine on either side of the gate that opened up into my
fenced in garden plot.
Part of that garden plot was an area for the absorption field for our
septic tank system. Eventually, the grape vine roots tapped into the
absorption field water supply and flourished. I was growing the vines for
ornamental effectt- To train the vines around the gate which I built as a
sort of trellised overhead entrance way..
Sorry, no fish or gravel or greenhouse connections here.
Ted
P.S. What would you call aquaponic grape culture? AquaVintaPonics?
AquaVitae?
MadDog-Fish20/20? Boones Farm AquaVine?
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Subject: blueberries
From: Jennifer Grunest
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 07:36:54 -0800
Does anyone have any experience growing blueberries hydroponically or any
knowledge of it being tried?
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Subject: Re: Grapes
From: Adriana Gutierrez
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 10:43:24 -0500
>
> Sorry, no fish or gravel or greenhouse connections here.
Ted, effluent is efluent, isn't it?
Adriana
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Subject: Pest management
From: Adriana Gutierrez
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 11:05:48 -0500
With my first commercial harvest this week came my first unwanted
"visitors". First a grasshopper, which I dispatched without my
customary mercy. Then I found a lady bug which told me it was
finding dinner and two days ago I found one aphid-infested leaf
with about 10 critters. There is also evidence of something else
eating holes in a few lettuce leaves. At this point it doesn't
seem to be a major infestation but I know that these things can
go from minor to major very quickly if no action is taken.
On my to-do list are the placement of sticky traps and the fixing
of large gaps in my screening. I assume I should also spray
insecticidal soap and/or ultra fine oil for the aphids. Is that
right? I will call our commercial extension agent for his
assessment also.
My question for this group is, what sprayer do you recommend? I
understand that it is important to apply materials to the
undersides of a the leaves. What does the job effectively in a
densely planted environment of 4-6 plants per square inch. I've
taken a look in various catalogs and prices are all over the
place. Can anybody recommend a particular brand or model.
A second question, is there an IPM "bible" out there?
Thanks again for all of your collective shared wisdmom.
Adriana
Thanks, Adriana
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Subject: Re: blueberries
From: Gordon Watkins
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 11:51:05 -0600
Jennifer,
I'v never grown blueberries aqua/hydroponically but I have grown them
commercially (5 acres) for
nearly 20 years. Here are a few considerations:
There are 3 predominant commercial types of blueberries, 1)Lowbush which
grow wild as a groundcover
and are "raked" for small berries used in processing, 2)Highbush which grow
6-8 feet tall and are the main
fresh market berry, and 3)Rabbiteyes which grow 10-15 feet tall, produce a
smaller, somewhat grainy berry
and are grown in the south. There is now a Southern Highbush which is a
cross between 2 and 3. There are
also ornamental types like High-Hat, a half-high variety grown for hedges
which also produces fruit.
Conventional wisdom is that blueberries require a rest period of 650-850
hours below 45 degrees F. and
they are phototrophic, requiring short days for bud initiation and long days
for vegetative growth. I did
come across mention of a study done with lowbush in a greenhouse without a
dormancy period but with
daylength control in which they were able to produce both shoot growth and
flowers, suggesting that rest
period may not be so important.
Blueberries are ericacious plants like azaleas and rhododendrons. That
is, they require acid soils (<
5.0pH) and have shallow, fibrous roots lacking root hairs.
They require plentiful moisture but excellent drainage and are highly
susceptible to phytopthora and
other root rots.
Good luck and please let me know if you try some experiments.
Gordon
Jennifer Grunest wrote:
> Does anyone have any experience growing blueberries hydroponically or any
knowledge of it being tried?
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Subject: Re: Grapes
From: KLOTTTRUE
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 18:40:36 EST
In a message dated 3/14/99 10:09:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ground@thrifty.net writes:
<< . What would you call aquaponic grape culture? AquaVintaPonics?
AquaVitae?
MadDog-Fish20/20? Boones Farm AquaVine?
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How about Aquaripple? Thanks Ted I talk to myself when nobody else will
listen,that could be a result of the old days and the ripple !
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Subject: Re: Pest management
From: KLOTTTRUE
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 18:50:50 EST
In a message dated 3/14/99 11:06:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, gutierrez-
lagatta@home.com writes:
<< A second question, is there an IPM "bible" out there?
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The Encyclopedia of Natural Insect and Disease Control by Rodale Press,Rincon
Vitova,IPM Labs and Gardens Alive.for stay at home Lady Bugs. Hope that helps
Ken
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Subject: Re: Pest management
From: "Ted Ground"
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 19:57:30 -0600
Hi Adriana!
You might try Hydro-Gardens, Inc out of Colorado Springs, Colorado.
Their website is http://www.hydro-gardens.com. Their phone is
800-634-6362.
They have extensive knowledge and experience in IPM. They can help supply
you with all the beneficial insects, sticky traps, etc that you might need
to help keep things under control.. There are tons of IPM bibles out there,
but I would just point you to Hydro-Gardens cuz they can actually supply
you with all the various kinds of stuff you need.
In my first year, I had some problems with insects...but it did not wipe me
out...just hang tough and with some sticky traps, maybe some B.T., and some
selective harvesting of infested plants, you can keep it under control....
You can also get some good ideas from the Hydro-Gardens catalog..just order
it over the phone or by the website...They can set you up in a hydroponic
business or in a back yard/garage system in a very short time...I know you
already have a system set up, but, for example, check out their Verti Grow
tower system...maybe you could find a few square feet of greenhouse space
for strawberries in the summer and raspberries in the winter????
Hey, did you ever track down the elusive Ultima Greenhouse there in
Florida?
Maybe it is just a myth?!
Hope this helps.
Ted
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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