Aquaponics Digest - Wed 03/24/99
Message 1: Re: Bamboo: was Aquaponic Tree Culture/Restoration
from David Yarrow
Message 2: Bamboo in cool climes
from Jose Pelleya
Message 3: Re: Bamboo in cool climes
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 4: Kenaf as a fiber/biomass crop Was: Bamboo in cool climes,
from "TGTX"
Message 5: Re: Bamboo in cool climes
from "vpage"
Message 6: Re: Bamboo: was Aquaponic Tree Culture/Restoration
from "vpage"
Message 7: help
from Jennifer Grunest
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Subject: Re: Bamboo: was Aquaponic Tree Culture/Restoration
From: David Yarrow
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 22:32:36 -0800 (PST)
At 05:52 PM 3/23/99 -0600, TGTX wrote:
>Hi vpage.
>There are a number of low temperature tolerant species...here's a few..
>there is the Fargesia nitida "anceps" and F. nitida "Fountain Bamboo"
>varieties which will tolerate minimum temps of -20 F.
>Then there is Fargesia murieliae...also -20F.
>Phyllostachys nuda which will tolerate -20 F...
>The list is long.
i have bamboo growing in my patio here in Albany, NY at 43 degrees latitude.
it was transplanted here last fall from Long Island (a decidedly milder
climate), and seems to have survived the winter ok with no more than a heavy
straw mulch and a sheltered spot. but only spring will tell how hardy this
bamboo variety is, and even the native grasses haven't begun to green up
yet. but it looks alive and healthy, although rather ragged and frost burned..
as a boy i spent two years in the Philippines, where bamboo has a thousand
uses -- from eating to building. even pipes for plumbing.
have any aquaponics experimenters explored using bamboo as a natural
substitute for poly pipe? growing your own plumbing!!
~ david
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David Yarrow at TurtleEyeland
44 Gilligan Road, East Greenbush, NY 12061
518-477-6100
dyarrow@igc.org
http://www.danwinter.com/yarrow/
http://www.danwinter.com/ChampionTrees/
Eve, the earthworm sez: "If yer not forest, yer against us."
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Subject: Bamboo in cool climes
From: Jose Pelleya
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 06:05:56 -0700
In the last century, bamboo was used extensively in European gardens, both
for its beauty and for the fact that in winter, it's the only tree that
didn't shed its leaves.
I was fortunate to attend the 6th Annual Bamboo Congress and Workshop here
in Costa Rica last Fall, and it was fascinating, the variety of
people/interest gathered in one room: architects, engineers, furniture
makers, artisans, a bamboo wine maker from Africa, artists, agronomers,
agriculturists, the bamboo orchestra of Japan (flutes, sax, xylophone,
percussionist) even a bamboo-plane maker.
I'm hooked on the stuff, all my furniture here is bamboo (was even before
the Congress), and I'm planning to build a bamboo treehouse. It's a great
resource for erosion, carbon fixation (has more leaf area than any tree),
food, shelter, and if you've ever stood inside a bamboo grove when the wind
is blowing..... So restful.
It's a great alternative for construction (you don't cut the whole foreast
to harvest, just the newer culms, which are larger than the older culms),
over 3,000 houses have been built here for low-income (and some high
income) from bamboo. The FUNBAMBOO foundation here has sponsored them,
helping people build their own houses. And they look just like yours and
mine (bamboo panels with cement finish). anti-sysmic qualities (hello,
California!!!) are tops.
You don't need to sand it, pressure treat it, varnish it, and it has a long
life if well-cured.
Plus it's so beautiful.
If you want some bamboo URLs, I'll hunt them up.
Jose
At 05:52 PM 3/23/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi vpage.
>
>There are a number of low temperature tolerant species...here's a few..
>there is the Fargesia nitida "anceps" and F. nitida "Fountain Bamboo"
>varieties which will tolerate minimum temps of -20 F.
>
>Then there is Fargesia murieliae...also -20F.
>
>Phyllostachys nuda which will tolerate -20 F...
>
>The list is long.
>
>I suggest you try contacting Endangered Species or Bamboo Sourcery as per
>the post. Get their catalogs first, then contact them with specific
>questions
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>Hope this helps.
>
>Ted
>
>> Is there a bamboo that would grow in Alberta Canada? I have bank eroding
>and
>> would love to see bamboo here!
>> VPage
>
Thought for the day:
Why is the time of day with the slowest traffic called rush hour?
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Subject: Re: Bamboo in cool climes
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 07:07:21 -0600
At 06:05 AM 3/24/99 -0700, Jose wrote:
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>If you want some bamboo URLs, I'll hunt them up.
Jose, please post these to the list if you have them. I thought I had saved
a file for bamboo URLs, but cannot locate it now.
Thanks
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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Subject: Kenaf as a fiber/biomass crop Was: Bamboo in cool climes,
From: "TGTX"
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 08:55:35 -0600
Jose,
Thanks for your great post on bamboo.
How fortunate that you were able to attend the Bamboo Congress and Workshop
Sounds like it was really something. Do you think there is a way we can
find out how to get a copy of the Proceedings? I really like this carbon
fixing aspect as well..
Reminds me of another related subject for our group to consider...which is
fiber plants. Anyone know anything about kenaf? It is grown as an
"alternative" crop here in Texas...Brazoria county I believe. I have heard
reports that it could be used as a substitute for peat moss in potting soil
mixes...Sorry about that you folks up in Canada...I know the sphagnum moss
trade is big up there, but kenaf may be a contender and perhaps especially
helpful for struggling farmers down here in sunny Texas...you can imagine
the demand for potting soil substitutes.... Canadian peat deposits are
being tapped heavily..but I wonder if they are being replenished at
anywhere near the rate of harvest.....not to mention the many wide uses of
such a crop as kenaf in paper, cardboard, composite building materials such
as fiber board, etc......
John Jeavons at Ecology Action in California wrote the book on How to Grow
More Vegetables (than you ever thought possible on less land than you can
imagine)...He and his group endeavored to grow as much plant biomass as
possible on the same garden plot to serve as compost and "green manure"
biomass that would "feed" the topsoil of the entire plot...I wonder if
kenaf/sunflowers/Jerusalem artichokes/sorghum maize/alfalfa or the like
might be the kind of plants that would serve that purpose?
Then there is fiber from flax to make linen....A different variety of flax
is used for linseed oil and flax seed oil for food and feeds.....very high
in the good essential fatty acids (EFAs) that we need in our diet....and
that fish need in their diet...hint...hint.
I still like this idea of starting these kinds of permaculture
trees/bamboos/grasses etc. etc... in the aquaponics nursery and
continuously transplanting them to the outer world...Hmm....Aquaponics
Dream No. 9....a sequel to "the man who planted trees"..."the man who
planted bamboo"?
> If you want some bamboo URLs, I'll hunt them up.
> Jose
Yes please do...
Ted
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Subject: Re: Bamboo in cool climes
From: "vpage"
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 08:11:33 -0700
I grew up in Mex. and I remember bamboo with admiration. I also saw it used
as the scaffolding for the Bank of Hong Kong building in Hong Kong. Many
dozens of stories!!
I would love the Url's!
I will pass on what I hear.
ThanksVPage
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Subject: Re: Bamboo: was Aquaponic Tree Culture/Restoration
From: "vpage"
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 08:12:41 -0700
Thanks :}
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Subject: help
From: Jennifer Grunest
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 19:32:27 -0800
I have a small nft system that I have been experimenting with by growing
tomatoes, basil, and cilantro.
I wrote the other day because I came home and the cilantro had just flopped
over. Based on the suggestions, I figured I would try to separate the
cilantro next time.
Now, I've come home and all but one of the tomato plants have also flopped
over. Has anyone ever experienced this? Any ideas what this could be?
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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