Aquaponics Digest - Fri 04/23/99
Message 1: Re: Your message to the aquaponics mailing list
from dreadlox@cwjamaica.com (michael kent barnett)
Message 2: Re: Malabar spinach
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 3: Re: Malabar spinach
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 4: Bright Lights Chard
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 5: Jamaica raft system
from LC543119
Message 6: Re: Raspberries
from "vpage"
Message 7: Re: local info
from "vpage"
Message 8: Re: local info
from "vpage"
Message 9: Re: Bright Lights Chard
from JobieEagan@webtv.net
Message 10: Re: Bright Lights Chard
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 11: Re: Bright Lights Chard
from JobieEagan@webtv.net
Message 12: Re: Raspberries
from "Fred Kious"
Message 13: Re: Bright Lights Chard
from "TGTX"
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Subject: Re: Your message to the aquaponics mailing list
From: dreadlox@cwjamaica.com (michael kent barnett)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:19:04 -0700
Seems like my provider changed my address without informing me, but then
again.... this IS Jamaica...take it easy..... phew......
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Subject: Re: Malabar spinach
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:20:57 -0500
At 01:43 PM 4/21/99 -0500, Allen wrote:
>Paula,
> Do you notice an *earthy* taste to Malabar spinach, like Swiss chard?
>I did and I do not care for either one because of that. Obviously other
>people are not put-off by that taste. I much prefer Chinese water
>spinach (kang-kong in the Philippines and pahk boong in Thailand), which
>is also not mucilaginous.
Not exactly "earthy", although I'd say that's one of those terms that could
be interpeted many ways. We've had good response using both Malabar spinach
and swiss chard in our salad mix, as long as we used the young, tender
leaves. Since their seasons only overlap for a short while, we very seldom
used both at the same time.
But we also had good response from our restaurant customers by offering the
larger leaves for use under entrees. The dark green of the chard makes a
welcome change from the lighter lettuces or kale. The unique shape and
difference of the Malabar, though, brought many comments. The larger leaves
can be quite heavy and "tough" feeling. Folks always wanted to know if it
was real and/or edible, and were delighted to find it was.
For flavor in a salad blend, though, the young leaves would have to be used,
I think. The older, larger sections, though, are a great addition in a
cooked greens mix - both for our own use and for some of our local cafes
that want to offer something different and still have customers who enjoy
cooked greens. Guess it depends on your market.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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Subject: Re: Malabar spinach
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:26:33 -0500
At 06:54 PM 4/22/99 EDT, Sunpeer wrote:
> We wanted the experiment to run
>its course so the plant produced tons of unusual pink flowers with a black
>berry (might be great for dye).
Absolutely - I don't know if it affected the viability of the seed, but we
did extract the dark purple liquid for use as a dye, leaving the seeds to
dry for planting. Our local farmers market sponsored an easter egg
decorating contest, and provided all the ingredients -- the most fun
activity for me was finding natural dyes to use instead of commercial ones.
It's a good thing my mother's still around to help with this type of
activity - at 87, she still remembers the way things were done when she was
young.
(BTW - beet purple and the color from the Malabar seed hulls are quite
different.)
>greenhouse! I would love to know if anyone has used this in an aquaponic or
>commercial setting.
>(Somewhere buried on my Jaz drive I have an Asian source for seed by the
>pound)
We'd be interested in your seed source, if you have time to look for it.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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Subject: Bright Lights Chard
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:20:51 -0400
Is anybody growing the Bright Lights Chard featured in this month's
Organic Gardening? Johnny's sales rep says that only some of the colors
come out at the baby stage and you have to grow it larget to get the
pinks and reds. How is the flavor at both baby and full-size?
We've had good response using both Malabar spinach
> and swiss chard in our salad mix, as long as we used the young, tender
> leaves. Since their seasons only overlap for a short while, we very seldom
> used both at the same time.
Adriana
Green Cuisine
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Subject: Jamaica raft system
From: LC543119
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:41:04 EDT
Mikey,
you can check with Growing Edge magazine my article called hurricane hydro
described the system I designed in the Cayman Islands for an ex Jamaican
grower
Gordon Creaser
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Subject: Re: Raspberries
From: "vpage"
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:39:44 -0600
Ken,
The pot scrubbers fro holding the roots. They were made of plastic looking
material. I just piled them up, they settled when wet and I topped up the
tube. During our summer they flowered and fruited with abandon-too humid in
greenhouse during our fall and winter.
Victoria
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Subject: Re: local info
From: "vpage"
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:46:15 -0600
I could give a long lecture on mistakes made and their cost. Read all you
can first. We jury rigged a lot .You can do that once the principles are
clear. Good fortune V:}
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Subject: Re: local info
From: "vpage"
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:58:59 -0600
Where are you located. Unfortunatelly there are many "broke" operations
around to salvage. Someone on this list will know something.
V
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Subject: Re: Bright Lights Chard
From: JobieEagan@webtv.net
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:49:24 -0400 (EDT)
I've been growing the bright lights chard. The colors showed up right
away. There are bright reds, bright yellows, oranges and softer colors.
Kind of lose the colors when you cook them. We boil for awhile here in
the south. Looks great as young leaves in salads. Mine are beginning
to go downhill now after some months harvesting leaves. I intend to
have more when the weather cools next fall. Trudy
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Subject: Re: Bright Lights Chard
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:58:54 -0400
Trudy,
Do you think it is too hot to re-seed? I got the impression that you
could go through the summer.
Adriana
> I've been growing the bright lights chard. The colors showed up right
> away. There are bright reds, bright yellows, oranges and softer colors.
> Kind of lose the colors when you cook them. We boil for awhile here in
> the south. Looks great as young leaves in salads.
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Subject: Re: Bright Lights Chard
From: JobieEagan@webtv.net
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:35:49 -0400 (EDT)
Adriana,
This is the first time I've grown chard, although I grow the traditional
southern greens, collards, mustard, turnips and throw in less
traditional things such as kale, kolhrabi, ect. Here in central
Florida, it's a bit tough to grow greens in summer. We switch to peas,
limas, corn, okra---whatever will take our heat and humidity. Maybe it
could make it through summer. Never gave a thought to trying---Trudy
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Subject: Re: Raspberries
From: "Fred Kious"
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:05:07 -0700
pot scrubbers
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Subject: Re: Bright Lights Chard
From: "TGTX"
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:46:35 -0500
Aquaponikers,
Bright Lights will definitely make it through our summers here in the
aquaponics greenhouse- but it needs enough water- probably not just a
trickle I should think- deep ebb and flow works well- and not too much air
heat or radiation heat stress on their big leaves- we grow it so big it
looks like ELEPHANT EARS almost- so evap cooling and some shade cloth is
called for- although after some heat stress it will remarkably snap back
after looking all the world like it might "Eat the Big Chalupa" as we say
around here.
Ted
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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