Aquaponics Digest - Sun 05/23/99




Message   1: Unsubscribe Remove

             from "Glenn Harper" 

Message   2: Flowers

             from james.rakocy@uvi.edu (James Rakocy, Ph.D.)

Message   3: Re: Chives

             from "A Pilling" 

Message   4: Re: Chives

             from "TGTX" 

Message   5: Re: strawberries

             from "TGTX" 

Message   6: Re: Chives

             from "Jim Sealy Jr." 

Message   7: Re: strawberries

             from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta

Message   8: Re: Chives

             from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta

Message   9: Re: Flowers

             from "William Brown" 

Message  10: Algae in Outdoor Pond and Fish to Eat It

             from "Clark Allison" 

Message  11: Re: Flowers

             from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta

Message  12: Re: Flowers

             from "William Brown" 

Message  13: flowers

             from LC543119

Message  14: Re: strawberries

             from "Dan Brentlinger" 

Message  15: Re: Chives

             from "Dan Brentlinger" 

Message  16: Re: Flowers

             from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta

Message  17: Re: Tatsoi

             from Jose Pelleya 

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Subject: Unsubscribe Remove

From:    "Glenn Harper" 

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 00:37:12 -0500

I've enjoyed your discussion group, but I need to get removed please.

Thanks

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Subject: Flowers

From:    james.rakocy@uvi.edu (James Rakocy, Ph.D.)

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 10:38:47 -0400 (AST)

What flowers are you growing? Jim R.

>Baby greens are very labor intensive even with their good yields.  Make sure

>you get a suitable price.  I personally would get out of the business

>because the return is so poor (my wife does it for friends).  People only

>pay US$4/lb here.  Flowers are much better at US$9/lb.

>William Brown mahiwai@cmpmail.com

>(aka lettuce@hilo.net)

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Subject: Re: Chives

From:    "A Pilling" 

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 10:24:21 -0600

In Nancy Bubel's The New Seed-Starters Handbook, it says...Days to

germination: 10 to 14 days at 60 - 70 degrees F. ...When to plant: It's best

to start seeds in January for spring planting, but you can also sow seeds in

open ground as soon as the soil is dry enough to work...

>From this, it sounds like they like colder soil temps to germinate. Hope

this helps. Amy

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Subject: Re: Chives

From:    "TGTX" 

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 11:34:27 -0500

Jim Sealy's >

> I can't stand the smell of raw onions, garlic, or the taste of

>tomatoes, though I love growing them.

Jim, you've got me worried about you, now.

Onions, garlic & tomatoes are sort of like catnip to me- especially when

cooked together in various forms, but raw is great too!

Are you, uh, an earthling?

Concerned,

Ted

"There's only 2 things that money cain't buy, and that's true love an'

homegrown tomatoes" - Guy Clark

Ted

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Subject: Re: strawberries

From:    "TGTX" 

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 11:36:55 -0500

>I would love to hear more about your set-up for strawberry growing.  I

>was under the impression that hydroponic strawberries were not an

>economically feasible crop.  With the phase-out of methyl bromate in the

>next year or so there will be a lot of interest in alternatives to

>field-grown or soil-grown strawberries.

>

>Adriana Gutierrez, Sarasota

>

Adriana,

Dr. Taketa(?), I believe, at the USDA research station in West Virginia,

grows strawberries in trout pond effluent using NFT troughs in his

greenhouse.  Don't know how the economics are working out for him, though.

Ted

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Subject: Re: Chives

From:    "Jim Sealy Jr." 

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 11:48:50 -0500

Hey Ted,

I know I'm a little weird, but... I'll hurt somebody over not getting my

share of

batter fried tomato slices or onion rings at a fish fry, and you've gotta

have my

home grown picanti paste on burgers. It's sort of somewhere between catsup,

salsa

(learned my favorite recipe from an old guy in Throckmorton, TX years ago), and

pepper relish (chow chow), only it looks like greenish tomato paste. 

Only garlic

I like is salt pickled.

Jim 

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Subject: Re: strawberries

From:    Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta 

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 13:48:49 -0400

Hey Ted!

I've been there! I went to the  USDA facility in West Virginia last

June.  They had discontinued the strawberry research at that time.  The

research was primarily on the effectiveness of the plants in cleaning up

the effluent for subsequent release into the streams.  They also tested

the grow-towers and showed how yields were compromised on the lower

levels.  I think I recall that they were going to be publishing some

information on the economics but haven't looked into it since.

Adriana

> Dr. Taketa(?), I believe, at the USDA research station in West Virginia,

> grows strawberries in trout pond effluent using NFT troughs in his

> greenhouse.  Don't know how the economics are working out for him, though.

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Subject: Re: Chives

From:    Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta 

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 13:51:15 -0400

Thanks Amy,

The next time I do my Air Conditioned lettuce germination process I'll

do test strip of chives.  My original seeding is finally up (50% maybe)

and starting to grow multiple leaves so from now on I'll divide as

needed.

Adriana

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Subject: Re: Flowers

From:    "William Brown" 

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 06:52:13 -1000

Nasturtiums, Pineapple Sage, garlic (seasonal), Red bean (have to check name

on that one).  Looking at other additions.  The Nasturtiums alone will get

US$9/lb.

William Brown mahiwai@cmpmail.com

(aka lettuce@hilo.net)

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Subject: Algae in Outdoor Pond and Fish to Eat It

From:    "Clark Allison" 

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 14:52:12 PDT

Is there a good variety of hardy fish that will live in Kentucky and will 

eat the floating type of algae often found in outdoor ponds?  Anyone with 

information please respond.

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Subject: Re: Flowers

From:    Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta 

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 18:33:08 -0400

William,

Do you find that your customers for the flowers are regular weekly

buyers or is it all occasional special occasion purchases?  Just curious

how to market flowers.  Also about packaging and counts.

Adriana

> Nasturtiums, Pineapple Sage, garlic (seasonal), Red bean (have to check name

> on that one).  Looking at other additions.  The Nasturtiums alone will get

> US$9/lb.

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Subject: Re: Flowers

From:    "William Brown" 

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 13:01:40 -1000

We have two customers we sell to, we could find more but generally stay with

the lettuce as the salad mix market is not as profitable laborwise as the

fresh lettuce market.  We sell flowers to the a person who makes the salad

mix and sells it.  We only grow the ingredients, she preps and sells.  A

friend of ours so it works out.  The other place is a natural food store

that has a lunch and salad bar.  They buy all the flowers we bring and still

buy from others. A third place we don't sell to but buys flowers is a fancy

pizza joint with salad bar.  They also pay US$36 (you know I made an error,

we're getting $9 for 1/4lb of flowers of $36/lb).  General guideline find a

high end (read gourmet) food preparer that likes eye appeal and if they

don't use flowers talk them in to a trial.  We have a lot of fancy

restaurants in Hawaii at the resort areas.  I don't really know anyone else

selling flowers but there seems to always be a demand as if the market isn't

being satisfied. We get lots of requests for Daylilly flowers but it is hard

to find small flowers.  Also all orchid flowers are edible and requested

frequently.

PS the red bean I mentioned is actually called the Scarlet Runner Bean.  Two

varieties, one with a red flower the other with a pink coral color.  Very

pretty and nice flavor with a good nuttyness to it.  Easy to grow and keep

alive.

William Brown mahiwai@cmpmail.com

(aka lettuce@hilo.net)

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Subject: flowers

From:    LC543119

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 20:38:53 EDT

Adriana, Give Marjorie a call she has been selling flowers in phili for years

            Gordon C.

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Subject: Re: strawberries

From:    "Dan Brentlinger" 

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 20:52:31 -0400

Ted & Adriana,

There was an article published on the results of the research done growing

strawberries in NFT and towers.  I know I've got a copy of it in my files and

will locate it if anyone is interested.

Dan

brent@cropking.com

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Subject: Re: Chives

From:    "Dan Brentlinger" 

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 20:53:23 -0400

Jim,

I'd love to have that recipe for picanti paste!  Do you have a good one for

salsa too?

Dan

brent@cropking.com

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Subject: Re: Flowers

From:    Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta 

Date:    Sun, 23 May 1999 20:55:05 -0400

William,

I had a neighbor when I lived in Virginia who had a beautiful minature

daylilly plant.  Are you familiar with such a variety?  I think he got

his from Park Nursery. Thanks for sharing the infor on flowers, I'll

tuck it into my future testing folder...It goes to show that all it

takes is a couple of good customers to have a nice business.

Adriana

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Subject: Re: Tatsoi

From:    Jose Pelleya 

Date:    Sat, 22 May 1999 19:02:20 -0600

Adriana:

I've got the catalog.

So, I'm only 10 months behind? I thought it was years!!

Jose

S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775  417-256-5124

Web page  http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/



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