Aquaponics Digest - Tue 06/15/99




Message   1: Unsubscribe

             from Dave Miller 

Message   2: Algae eaters

             from Peggy & Emmett 

Message   3: Re: rainwater export (surplus potable water)

             from "Jorg D. Ostrowski" 

Message   4: Re: Unsubscribe

             from Jose Pelleya 

Message   5: Re: rainwater export (surplus potable water)

             from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta

Message   6: Re: Unsubscribe

             from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta

Message   7: AW: Algae eaters

             from Ter Spore 

Message   8: Re: AW: Algae eaters

             from james.rakocy@uvi.edu (James Rakocy, Ph.D.)

Message   9: Re: rainwater export (surplus potable water)

             from "Jorg D. Ostrowski" 

Message  10: Re: Unsubscribe

             from "Wendy Nagurny" 

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Subject: Unsubscribe

From:    Dave Miller 

Date:    Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:10:36 -0400

I will miss you guys for awhile, Ted, Uwe, Adriana, Alejendro, Jim and

too many more to list BUT I am not operating a system and my ground

based farm is behind (we also need rain which came today).

I am off to drum and plumb and veg and seek jazz and fest and pest

(camp).......

I will return as fall rolls around..

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Dave

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A "green" home remodeler

A father of 2 cockatiels

An organic farmer

A veggie drummer/keyboardist

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Subject: Algae eaters

From:    Peggy & Emmett 

Date:    Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:34:00 -0400

Hi Paula....triploid carp are the fish, I believe, you're looking

for______Em

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Subject: Re: rainwater export (surplus potable water)

From:    "Jorg D. Ostrowski" 

Date:    Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:50:30 -0600 (MDT)

You said:"What a great idea Jorg! Do you suppose there is

a market for  bottled Hawaiian Rain Water? 

Out of curiosity what brand of paint do you use on the

roof and where do you buy it. Some non-toxic waterproof

paint would come in handy."

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Kevin: Our roof is a latex based elastomeric polymer membrane over regular

asphalt shingles. On most of our projects prepainted metal roofing is

used. That would work better, if the roof was used for water export, if

this idea has any practicality and market. Could aquarium suppliers, fish

importers, etc. use this water? Jorg ostrowski

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Subject: Re: Unsubscribe

From:    Jose Pelleya 

Date:    Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:18:13 -0600

Dave:

Say it ain't so.

We'll miss you, see you in the Fall.

Jose

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Subject: Re: rainwater export (surplus potable water)

From:    Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta 

Date:    Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:10:31 -0400

Jorg,

The only way to know is to talk to them.  Take in a sample and any

chemical analysis you've got and see what they say.  On a gut level,

however, my sense is that anybody who is concerned about water quality

is also looking for consistency and is probably using reverse osmosis

for purification purposes.  Rain water brings questions of acid rain and

air pollution, not to mention things like bird droppings and dust from

the roof.

Adriana

That would work better, if the roof was used for water export, if

> this idea has any practicality and market. Could aquarium suppliers, fish

> importers, etc. use this water? Jorg ostrowski

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Subject: Re: Unsubscribe

From:    Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta 

Date:    Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:11:57 -0400

Dave,

You can't go until you tell us what a veggie drummer is...I have visions

of you pounding on your drums with zucchinis, carrots and eggplants...

Adriana

> Dave:

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> Say it ain't so.

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> We'll miss you, see you in the Fall.

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Subject: AW: Algae eaters

From:    Ter Spore 

Date:    Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:16:03 +0200

Hi,

Interesting,

We have a large water pond where we collect rainfall water from the =

greenhouse. Plenty of algae!!! What kind of fish you suggest to get rid =

of them. We have grass carp in the pond but I think they do not enjoy =

the algae. The algae are clogging our hydroponic system.

Johan

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Van:    Peggy & Emmett[SMTP:pegnem@mindspring.com]

Verzonden:      dinsdag 15 juni 1999 14:34

Aan:    aquaponics@townsqr.com

Onderwerp:      Algae eaters

Hi Paula....triploid carp are the fish, I believe, you're looking

for______Em

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Subject: Re: AW: Algae eaters

From:    james.rakocy@uvi.edu (James Rakocy, Ph.D.)

Date:    Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:50:08 -0400 (AST)

Are you referring to filamentous algae or phytoplankton. Grass carp or

tilapia will eat filamentous algae but no fish will get rid of phtoplankton.

Fish will eat it but more will grow immediately and replace it. Clams are

good at filtering algae, but if they get rid of all of it, there goes their

food supply and they may die. Also freshwater clams produce larvae that

parasitize fish gills. The best technique would be to plant floating

macrophytes over a good portion of the pond, maybe half. They will shade the

phytoplanton and outcompete them for nutrients. Macrophytes (aquapic plants

like water lilies, water hyacinth, etc.) and phytoplankton are antagonistic

to some extent.  If you shift the ecology in favor of macrophytes, your

water will be crystal clear. Jim R.

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Subject: Re: rainwater export (surplus potable water)

From:    "Jorg D. Ostrowski" 

Date:    Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:32:39 -0600 (MDT)

Adriana: I checked with a major fish importer and they use water straight

out of the city tap, with chlorine and flouride. I was surprised to hear

that, since both are very serious health concerns to humans. So far nobody

needs my clean water. We do not have acid rain in our area. Jorg Ostrowski

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Subject: Re: Unsubscribe

From:    "Wendy Nagurny" 

Date:    Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:27:36 -0400

I asked Dave this once before and never got an answer.  Maybe he will clue

us in on how to drum with veggies before he leaves. 

Wendy

>Dave,

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>You can't go until you tell us what a veggie drummer is...I have visions

>of you pounding on your drums with zucchinis, carrots and eggplants...

>

>Adriana

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