Aquaponics Digest - Wed 06/16/99




Subject: 

        Aquaponics Digest - Wed 06/16/99

   Date: 

        Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:47:40 -0600

   From: 

        S & S Aqua Farm 

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        snsarchive@i55mall.com

Message   1: Re: Advertisement for 15th

             from "Andrew.D" 

Message   2: Re: several items

             from "Uwe Bruenjes" 

Message   3: Re: subscribe (again)

             from S & S Aqua Farm 

Message   4: Bugs!

             from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta

Message   5: Re: Bugs!

             from "SULFERCREEK" 

Message   6: Re: Bugs!

             from Dave Miller 

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Subject: Re: Advertisement for 15th

From:    "Andrew.D" 

Date:    Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:26:00 +0930

Hi everyone,

With all our efforts in the aquaculture and blooming aquaponics industry we

hope to one day market our products successfully so that our hard work pays

off. What's the point of having a great product if we don't know how to

market it and value add it.

There are ways to market and there are ways to market.

Something that has helped us immensly is a marketing site with all the

secrets that the gurus don't want you to know.

I know them now and have increased our marketing three fold.

Free reports are available but only go if you want to discover these hidden

secret breakthroughs.You will have to go through our spiel (please read and

enjoy) the additional URL is there.

IMPORTANT! Don't hit reply, instead e-mail me please ( so I can address you

personally ) at andrews@privatesites.com

I hope to be able to provide you all with some info on some of the new

species our Dept. are working with once the proprietry clauses have been

released.These would be marine and freshwater ornamentals in the U.S.A. i.e

Barramundi, Snapper etc. We can provide you with these species, however, you

will need to organise quarrantine on your side etc.They will be certified

disease free from Govt. Vet Lab.

Press Release: Aquaculture Advantage of Australia is a supplier of aquatic

equipment and we have now released our 4th compact clarifilter with a

biomass standing crops of 1,350 lbs and mechanical filtration to 20um. for

only Aus$2,265.00.

 U.S.A. dealers and distributors are welcome to apply.

Regards

Andrew

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Subject: Re: several items

From:    "Uwe Bruenjes" 

Date:    Wed, 02 Jun 99 12:52:25 PDT

Hi Jim,

apparently there is a relationship between your last words to Ted and you=

r comment to me: increase bacterial growth instead of diluting the water.=

 Now, how could I encourage bacterial growth in biodigested waste water, =

which is lead to an algal/bacterial pond? The idea is to feed the fish =

at least to a great extend on the microorganisms developing in this water=

.

Uwe

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> The second secret of greenwater systems is feeding so much that you

> transform an algae-based system into a bacterial-based system, so when

> algae does die, the bacteria still continue to remove ammonia. Of cours=

e,

> abundant aeration is needed.

>

> Uwe, dilution is not the solution this time. We did an experiment where=

 we

> diluted 5% every day compared to no dilution at all and it made no diff=

erence.

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Subject: Re: subscribe (again)

From:    S & S Aqua Farm 

Date:    Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:46:11 -0500

>Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:37:35 -0400

>From: Dave Miller 

>Reply-To: recycler@eclipse.net

>Organization: Concepts In Kitchens, Inc.

>To: S & S Aqua Farm 

>Subject: Re: subscribe (again)

>References: <1.5.4.32.19990615193229.009e5c34@townsqr.com>

>

>Geez,

>

>Now I feel like I'm cutting off family which I never intended. Even

>Paula forwarded some regrets like I once did with Ted.

>

>OK, could we agree as a group that group messages ARE sent via the list

>AND that private messages ARE sent individually? I already gave up the

>hydroponics list because of the chatter.=20

>

>The only problem for me is that I get many posts about things that may

>never apply... I do have an archive and a seperate folder of things you

>have all taught me regardless. And I will use them one day or send to

>others who will.

>

>I still make my own soap and am saving ash and plan to save water so my

>heart is more than an organic farmer. If my input is so valued I see

>less reason to give up or delete the various messages that don't apply.

>

>As to drumming with veggies, each veggie type has a different resonance

>and you should only use fresh picked specimens, much like tapping on a

>watermelon to see if it is just so ripe. But plan on eating them, after

>you tap them too hard.

>

>I'm not into harvest yields or market prices though I can understand why

>you all might be. I'm just a regular guy with more than a yard yet less

>than a true farm. I dig the aquaponics concept even if I no longer eat

>fish because of the relatively closed loop system discussed some time

>ago.

>

>I have spoken with Uwe, Ted and Kevin, etc. privately and so you are a

>virtual family. I will ask to reinstate me with the hopes that the

>"chatter" is sent privately and I will privately weed out what is

>non-applicable.

>

>BTW I was sent studies about the algae solutions from Rodale, Emmaus Pa

>with putting the straw, etc,. and if I can find it my DEEP pile I can

>resend to others. I don't have a scanner so snail mail and maybe a stamp

>will help. The study is conclusive, it does help remove the cloud from

>the pond and my mom has proved it at her place.

>

>

>I guess this means I am un-un-subscribed. Or on!

>

>Dave Miller

>40 Hollywood Ave

>Somerset NJ 08873

>

>Please no Junk Mail

>

>Dave

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>A "green" home remodeler

>A father of 2 cockatiels

>An organic farmer

>A veggie drummer/keyboardist

>

S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775  417-256-5124

Web page  http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/

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Subject: Bugs!

From:    Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta 

Date:    Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:28:43 -0400

I am swimming in bugs!  Aphids on my red giant mustard, cutworms in my

tatsoi and some whiteflies in the lettuce.  A few thrips and mummy

aphids thrown in for variety in my mix.  The latter I kept sort of under

ocntrol with M-pede (Safer soap), Di-Pel (BT) and natural pyrethrins. 

Along came armyworms in my swiss chard.  By the time I figured out that

BT wasn't touching them the chard looked like lace!  Now they're

starting in on my Bull's Blood beets, yikes!

The extension service recommended somthing that cost $500/gallon and the

smallest size is a gallon (sorry the name of this wonder product has

vanished from my mind).  I marched my buggy, wormy leaves to the local

pesticide company and they suggested either Neem or Naturalis, a fungus

that has just been approved for veggies.  At $45 for a quart the

Naturalis was a steal!  Has anybody tried it?  It is supposed to attack

anything that moves but is a people friendly biological product that

starts to reproduce in your beds for on-going control.  I will report

back on its effectiveness.  Another interesting product they showed me

was a pyrethrin aerosol bomb.  At $8 a pop it was pricey, fortunately I

have the most porous greenhouse in the Universe so I couldn't be

tempted.

Does anybody have any suggestions for other good on-going bug-control

routines?

Can you recommend a good sprayer for when I upgrade from the $20

variety?

Adriana

Sliding down the steep, slippery slope of the learning curve

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Subject: Re: Bugs!

From:    "SULFERCREEK" 

Date:    Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:52:03 -0400

Bad bugs can't belch

use black strap molasses mixed in water and spray this on the plants,this

gives the plant a false brix reading.  When a bug eats a high sugar plant

,the sugar turns to alcohol and kills the bug,they can tell when a plant has

high sugar so they stay away

dave bok

Natures Way Organic Farm

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Subject: Re: Bugs!

From:    Dave Miller 

Date:    Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:50:14 -0400

Adriana,

Put out the old flypaper strips for the whitefly. Greenhouses generally

have something similar that is white and sticky

--

Dave

S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775  417-256-5124

Web page  http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/



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