Aquaponics Digest - Wed 08/11/99
Message 1: Water Purification
from Brian Gracia
Message 2: RV: I WANT TO GET MARRIED!
(http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/mayyen/marriage.htm)
from "Alejandro Gallardo"
Message 3: Re: RV: I WANT TO GET MARRIED!
(http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/mayyen/marriage.htm)
from Christian Hedemark
Message 4: Re: [Fwd. Aquaculture Resource, was Re: A Copy]
from russ baker
Message 5: Re: Rainwater Harvesting and Purification System
from POLLYDD
Message 6: RE: RV: I WANT TO GET MARRIED!
(http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/mayyen/marriage.htm)
from "Alejandro Gallardo"
Message 7: Re: Rainwater Harvesting and Purification System
from "TGTX"
Message 8: Re: H2O2 suppliers
from "prody d"
Message 9: Re: Rainwater Harvesting and Purification System
from "Marcy L. Nameth"
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Subject: Water Purification
From: Brian Gracia
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:35:36 -0500
Hey Everyone,
I just had to add my two cents to this discussion.
I have just returned from vacation. The first stop my party of 6 adults
made was to allow me to view the worlds largest Red Drum and Sea Trout
hatchery in the world. They are also trying to figure out the Tarpon
breeding pattern and produce those in abundance as well.
Anyway, the facility is located in Lake Jackson, Texas, just south of
Houston by about 20-30 miles or so. It has an aquarium building that is
about 16500 sq. ft. You can take a tour of their hatchery and see the
process.
Now for my two cents. This facility pulls in gulf water and filters it to
200 microns. It then runs the water to two different locations, the
hatchery building and the 36 1 acre grow out ponds. The water that goes
into the hatchery building gets filtered again using a sand filter and then
a crushed coral filter. From there it goes into the sterilization tanks.
The first tank is connected to an ozone generator. Now, these tanks are
about 18 ft. high and about 18" - 24" in diameter. The ozone is micro
bubbled from the bottom and collected at the top. It then is collected and
put through a catalyst that changes it to oxygen. Also from just below the
top of the tank, the water is collected and pumped down to the bottom of
the next tank. These two tanks are the same size. In this second tank,
oxygen is added to the water and then the water is sent to the aquarium
tanks and the fry tanks.
Brian Gracia
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Subject: RV: I WANT TO GET MARRIED!
(http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/mayyen/marriage.htm)
From: "Alejandro Gallardo"
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:25:10 -0600
SNIPPED
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Subject: Re: RV: I WANT TO GET MARRIED!
(http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/mayyen/marriage.htm)
From: Christian Hedemark
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:38:45 -0400
That was in POOR POOR taste, spamming the mailing list like that.
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Subject: Re: Rainwater Harvesting and Purification System
From: POLLYDD
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:43:00 EDT
Please ask the sender of the rainwater harvesting post to tell us where to
get a hard copy of the Texas Rainwater Board's booklet on water catchment.
I would appreciate it. Sincerely, Polly Davis email: pollydd
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Subject: RE: RV: I WANT TO GET MARRIED!
(http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/mayyen/marriage.htm)
From: "Alejandro Gallardo"
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:00:00 -0600
I appologize sincerely about this misshap. It was a mistake while selectig
adresses. I'm quite embarrased. Sorry again.
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Subject: Re: Rainwater Harvesting and Purification System
From: "TGTX"
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:54:57 -0500
Marc wrote:
> Ted:
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> I deal more often than you want to imagine due to cross
> connections and back flow problems. I would estimate around
> 75% of my customers who get public water to their previously
> well fed house want to keep the well cross connected to
> their system in case the public supply fails or to augment
> their system's irrigation capability.
etc....
Marc, thanks for that clarification. I am very aware of cross contamination
problems or potentials in rainwater and well water supply systems. I agree
with your analysis of the particular cross connection problems that you and
I are aware of and that many folks who are installing these systems may be
dimly aware of, or take for granted.
I guess my point about regulatory scrutiny and approval or disapproval of
such systems that support more water conservation and indepence, as I
expressed it earlier, in passing, had more to do with completely independent
systems (that is, physically segregated systems) rather than the
potentially cross connected household water supply systems that you referred
to. Around here, most of the rainwater capture systems that I am aware of
are totally severed from public water supply systems, so please forgive my
bluster to "damn the torpedoes", if that is how you took it.
But it seems you agree with the facts of the matter that the central
tendency and trends of government intervention into self sufficiency, life,
liberty and the pursuit of happiness, such as aquaponics and rainwater
capture systems are very real- like that Monty Python sketch wherein Michael
Palin plays the Military General and calls up his subordinates to "surround
everybody" on the Earth. Bobby Dylan sang "I can see the day coming when
even your Home Garden might be against the Law" I don't want that day to
come.
I am MUCH MUCH more GRAVELY concerned about the trends in Super Bureaucracy
at every level of government from local to "global" (God forbid) and the
invasive "political-i-zation" of every aspect of private life, and the
so-called "Social Construction of Reality" taught and promulgated in
Universities everywhere and implied and reinforced indirectly through the
media and mass culture..... than I am about technical questions of whether
we shall survive as a people on this planet due to pollution, weather, Y2K,
etc....as serious and as real as those issues are...I know we will make it
somehow....but Not because of "5 Year Plans and New Deals wrapped in Golden
Chains"..as John Fogery sang.
As Johnny L. and Paul M. said "We can work it out", but not because of the
"Taxman".
O.K. I ranted enough for a month or so, and in so doing revealed my age
spectrum and musical tastes. So sue me.
Y'all take care and go out there and collect rainwater, grow fish, and grow
greens!
Ted
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Subject: Re: H2O2 suppliers
From: "prody d"
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:56:06 PDT
Dear Paula,
I am just about to start my system and i read that i need H202 to clean
my gravel....can you please tell me the ratio of H202 to water....
Thanks
Sweetlake Farm
Prody
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Subject: Re: Rainwater Harvesting and Purification System
From: "Marcy L. Nameth"
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:38:32 -0600
I agree the government thing is but I decided to "be
offended" by the anti people liberal bunch.
When we decided to buy this place I found many regulations
costing us money and in general anti farm a.k.a. anti
aquaponics. I felt offended. I acted offended. I ranted and
raved and called the governors office, the newspapers, the
ag department and in general made several points:
1. The State of Colorado is ag hostile and I stated specific
reasons and events.
2. I was more welcome by other states I visited than by my
own State of Colorado and I stated specific reasons and
events.
3. The Division of Natural resources is ag hostile and I
stated specific reasons and events.
4. Other states are more concerned with helping their ag
business and farmers than Colorado and I stated specific
reasons and events.
5. I claimed the ag people were out of touch with new
developments (aquaponics, pastured poultry, vermiculture)
and they agreed with me but were passive and demonstrated
little concern.
The bottom line of this story is that I found a complacent,
authoritarian, lazy, citizen mistrustful bunch of
bureaucrats and I kept calling different numbers and
ranting/raving till I found someone who had personal pride,
gave a hoot and would help me.
I also visited the state web site where a critique of the
water department was on line. It was from lawyers,
engineers, consultants, etc. Professionals in the water
business. They blasted the department for poor customer
support ,whining, bullying little water consumers like me
and other items that I already had complained about. I was
vindicated.
I think what happens as we get older our testosterone
diminishes and we roll over when someone decides to rule.
What amazes me is how few are out there trying to rule so
the few minority activist socialists and other collectivist
liberals disproportionally get their way due to the
complacency of the "silent majority".
I found it's a good time to get involved as the liberals
have soiled their own bed and a quiet public backlash is
currently taking place. Noone rocked the boat till I started
to complain. Our farm is doing great, now.
Marc
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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