Aquaponics Digest - Sat 09/11/99
Message 1: Re: Free Guide to Building a Cooler!!!!
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 2: Let Nature Reign
from Bagelhole1
Message 3: Re: Free Guide to Building a Cooler!!!!
from "Barry Thomas"
Message 4: Re: Free Guide to Building a Cooler!!!!
from "James Bell"
Message 5: Re: Need off grid advice
from Marc & Marcy
Message 6: Re: Free Guide to Building a Cooler!!!!
from "Barry Thomas"
Message 7: Re: Free Guide to Building a Cooler!!!!
from Mike Strates
Message 8: Re: Need off grid advice
from "grizzly"
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Subject: Re: Free Guide to Building a Cooler!!!!
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:56:10 -0400
Hi Mike,
Very interesting. Can you give us an idea of the size greenhouse that
your passive evaporative cooler would work in? I assume that the larger
the gh the bigger the heat-sink? Second, for the piping that runs
through the gh, where do you put it to keep from tripping over it as you
work? Since cool air falls would it not be better to run it above the
work space?
Adriana
> Mike's Passive Evaporative Cooler
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Subject: Let Nature Reign
From: Bagelhole1
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:47:24 EDT
Fellow Fish Lovers,
Now, we are thinking of making the raceway into an
eco-environment, with snails, plants, insects and fish, so we don't have to
feed the fish. Am contemplating tilapia with catfish, crayfish, and shrimp,
what do you think? Today, we added plants, minnows and things from the
Russian river (donated by the saintly Noche, ambassador of sustainability).
But I'm still looking for some affordable tilapia halfgrown, or will they eat
everything up?
Moving along
slowly,
Tom O
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Subject: Re: Free Guide to Building a Cooler!!!!
From: "Barry Thomas"
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 11:18:21 +0100
> work? Since cool air falls would it not be better to run it above the
> work space?
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> Adriana
Surely this isn't an admission of the omission of good circulation fan(s)?
;)
Barry
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Subject: Re: Free Guide to Building a Cooler!!!!
From: "James Bell"
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 08:00:07 -0400
Hi all
well I is still several years away from getting started but I
do plan to get started
since I live in the land of igloos my concern is maintaining
water temps in the winter so my plans are to use r40 cement
walls for the tanks with radient heat tubes buried right into the
cement.
also for eficiency plan to remonr the fish out of the
greenhouse and house them in a head house. still in the gren
house I plan 50000 gallon heat sinks for heat storage which in
the summer should be usable for cooling purposes.
heating will be solar panels on the head house roof and
boiler
one question is since I would like to remove a pump would it
be better to remove the pump from the beds to the fish or
from the fish to the beds
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Subject: Re: Need off grid advice
From: Marc & Marcy
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 08:59:04 -0600
Joe Nasmeth. Quarterback for the Kodiak Krushers of the
short-lived Klondike expansion league?
> grizzly wrote:
..snip..
> Hey are you related to Joe Nasmeth
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> >It's Nameth .. not Nasmeth
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> >Marc Stephen Nameth
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Subject: Re: Free Guide to Building a Cooler!!!!
From: "Barry Thomas"
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 17:17:00 +0100
Adriana,
> Second, for the piping that runs
> through the gh, where do you put it to keep from tripping over it as you
> work? Since cool air falls would it not be better to run it above the
> work space?
Sorry for the somewhat flippant post I sent earlier - teach me to mail
people before I've woken up properly.
I believe you use large alloy trays for your plants. What are they
standing on? If it's all fairly open you might run the cooling loops
underneath your trays (not too close). This may be difficult to do now that
your set up and have plants in-system however. What about your
walk-ways? Maybe you could run loops down each side of (at least some
of) your paths?
Depending on your GH it may be possible to possible to run the loop
overhead if you were to criss-cross it from side to side, attached to
GH framework so as not to obstruct light too much?
Barry
barrythomas@btinternet.com
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Subject: Re: Free Guide to Building a Cooler!!!!
From: Mike Strates
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:01:46 +1000
On Sat, Sep 11, 1999 at 02:56:10AM -0400, Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
wrote:
> Very interesting. Can you give us an idea of the size greenhouse that
> your passive evaporative cooler would work in? I assume that the larger
It works in mine, although mine is very small. Around 15' x 20' x 6', if
that helps. One barrel sufficies for that size, IMHO.
> the gh the bigger the heat-sink? Second, for the piping that runs
> through the gh,
The bigger the heat exchanger AND the higher your water flow rate AND the
larger surface area you need for your water (ie: bigger barrel). Oh, and did
I mention that you'd need a larger pump :-)
> where do you put it to keep from tripping over it as you
> work? Since cool air falls would it not be better to run it above the
> work space?
Sorry... You can do one of two things -- affix it on the roof, and use clear
pipe instead (above the pond perhaps so the condensate drips into the
water), or possibly better put the heat exchanger coil at the bottom of your
ponds to cool them down and then run air through the ponds to cool the air
down furthermore.
--
Mike "Skyfox" Strates ; www.croftj.net/~mstrates
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Subject: Re: Need off grid advice
From: "grizzly"
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 14:34:02 -0400
No, no, no, Smokin Joe, weak knees, N.Y.Jets!
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