Aquaponics Digest - Wed 09/15/99
Message 1: Re: I want to join your discussion group
from "Jewel Lopez"
Message 2: Re: Re: I want to join your discussion group
from "Jewel Lopez"
Message 3: Re: ozone generators
from "Jewel Lopez"
Message 4: Dumpster Diving/Floating bed system
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 5: Pictures/attachments, was Re: Root Crops
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 6: Re: Re: I want to join your discussion group
from
Message 7: Re: Root Crops
from
Message 8: Re: Root Crops
from
Message 9:
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Message 10: Fwd. Commercial Scale Research/Solar Aqua Farms question
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 11: Seed suppliers
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 12: Re: Pictures/attachments, was Re: Root Crops
from "Jewel Lopez"
Message 13: Re: Re: Re: I want to join your discussion group
from "Jewel Lopez"
Message 14: Re: Seed suppliers
from Rick_Stein-RP5525
Message 15: Re: Dumpster Diving/Floating bed system
from MUDDTOO
Message 16: Re: Pictures/attachments, was Re: Root Crops
from Bagelhole1
Message 17: Re: ozone generators
from "JAY MYERS"
Message 18: Re: Pictures/attachments, was Re: Root Crops
from Joy Pye-MacSwain
Message 19: Trout dietary needs
from "Jewel Lopez"
Message 20: Re: ozone generators
from "Jewel Lopez"
Message 21: Re: Communal Website
from Dave Miller
Message 22: Re: Pictures/attachments, was Re: Root Crops
from atkindw@cwjamaica.com (david w atkinson)
Message 23: Re: Root Crops
from "Jerry Fuelling"
Message 24: Re: Pictures/attachments, was Re: Root Crops
from S & S Aqua Farm
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Subject: Re: I want to join your discussion group
From: "Jewel Lopez"
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:10:53 -0600
Thanks Adriana,
I just found out from the local tilapia supplier that fortunately there
aren't regs here (surprisingly). I guess the bureaucrats realize theyd
never survive a CO winter. But I'm leaning towards doing some nodes at
least with trout. I've been worried about keeping the tilapia warm enough
(we're already getting freezes overnight here), whereas the trout loves the
cold - just have to make sure the greenhouse never gets too warm in the
summer I guess. Maybe if we cross the breed we can get a "snow bird" fish
that likes canadian summers and florida winters!!!
Did you get the email I sent directly to your email address?
thanks again,
Jewel
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Subject: Re: Re: I want to join your discussion group
From: "Jewel Lopez"
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:13:07 -0600
Thanks Mike. What kind of environment and temperatures were you growing the
trout and tilapia at? We're real cold and high in the Rockies. What
variety trout?
Jewel
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Subject: Re: ozone generators
From: "Jewel Lopez"
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:23:50 -0600
Jay, what is fish DO?
I don't know if this helps, but there are a couple of companies selling
submersed ozone generators that are used to purify well water in storage
tanks. Let me know if you'd like more info.
Jewel
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Subject: Dumpster Diving/Floating bed system
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 07:11:48 -0400
Hey Joel,
I just did a dumpster-dive this weekend myself fish out a grape packing
case :). How did you anchor the lettuce? I was considering using Jiffy
cubes in plastic Solo cups set in holes about 7 inces apart.
Adriana
> We also grew about
> 70 head of lettuce in nutrient solution. I used styrofoam shipping boxes
> about 2 foot square to hold five plants each. These boxes were used to ship
> grapes and I got them from the Luckys supermarket dumpster.
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Subject: Pictures/attachments, was Re: Root Crops
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 06:11:39 -0500
At 09:00 PM 09/14/1999 -0400, Butch Ragland wrote:
>Please send pictures of ur system
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Please, don't send any pictures or attachments to the list. If you have a
web site where they can be put up, please refer us to the site.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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Subject: Re: Re: I want to join your discussion group
From:
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 7:42:55 + 5 EST
Hi!
Browns and rainbows on the trout question.
Climate here is a bit worse than in the Rockies - long cold winters of about
15 degrees average and
snow that we shovel down to our doors off the roof sometimes - serious "lake
effect snows" off lake
ontario
Mike
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Subject: Re: Root Crops
From:
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 7:44:16 + 5 EST
Haven't constructed the system yet - will send pictures if you can wait a
little while and re-contact
me!
mike
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Subject: Re: Root Crops
From:
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 7:46:48 + 5 EST
Joel,
Would love a few piuctures of your systems. If digital images, email them to
biocomet@northnet.org. If hard copy, respond via listserv and leave me your
email addy so we can
correspond otherwise!
Mike
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Subject:
From:
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 9:27:09 + 5 EST
Just a quick survey - what is most successful in your aquaponic system and
where is the best
source of seeds for what you are growing??? We want to diversify our
students into groups of
different seeds to see what works best, but we need sources!!
Mike
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Subject: Fwd. Commercial Scale Research/Solar Aqua Farms question
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:41:25 -0500
The following post is forwarded to the list for comment directly to Miriam
Landman. If you have input that will help her in this research and would
like to be included, please post to:
Miriam Landman
Paula
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Hi.
I'm researching linked aquaculture/agriculture, and was wondering if your
farm sells the fish and the herbs at a commercial scale. How much do you
produce?
Thanks.
Miriam Landman, Assistant Producer
Living on Earth: NPR's weekly environmental news show
8 Story St.
Cambridge, MA 02138
Tel. 617-520-6859; 617-868-8810
Fax 617-868-8659
http://www.loe.org
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PS:
Miriam also asked about the current status of Solar Aqua Farms, and I don't
have that information, but would appreciate any updates about them being
posted to the group as well.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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Subject: Seed suppliers
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:27:44 -0400
Mike,
I love Johnny's Selected Seeds. The service is great (orders in by 12
are shipped the same day), the selection is excellent and the people who
man the phones actually know their products. You can reach them at
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/
Adriana Gutierrez
Green Cuisine
Sarasota, Florida
> where is the best
> source of seeds for what you are growing???
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Subject: Re: Pictures/attachments, was Re: Root Crops
From: "Jewel Lopez"
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:55:22 -0600
I was just thinking it would be great for everyone in the group to have a
group website where they could put a picture or two if they wanted, list
their name, email address, and describe what systems they are doing (or
planning). We would be willing to provide that, if there is a need or
demand for it. Let me know what you think everyone.
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: I want to join your discussion group
From: "Jewel Lopez"
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:57:11 -0600
That's snow! Where are you?
Do you have any sources for brown/rainbows? thanks.
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Subject: Re: Seed suppliers
From: Rick_Stein-RP5525
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:02:12 -0700 (MST)
also try http:/www.burpee.com
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Subject: Re: Dumpster Diving/Floating bed system
From: MUDDTOO
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:21:59 EDT
In a message dated 9/15/99 4:09:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
gutierrez-lagatta@home.com writes:
> I just did a dumpster-dive this weekend myself fish out a grape packing
> case :). How did you anchor the lettuce? I was considering using Jiffy
> cubes in plastic Solo cups set in holes about 7 inces apart.
Hello Adriana,
I transplanted mine into the Solo cups, one in each corner of the styrofoam
box and one in the center. I cut a nickle or quarter size hole in the cup
bottom, pushed the roots through, and added just enough perlite to support
the lettuce. Anything you have would work to keep the direct sunlight away
from the roots and add some support too. A smaller drinking cup would
probally work better as their isn't any roots in the cup.
Oh, the box I have are vented so I added a clear plastic liner, drapping the
excess plastic over the out sides and taping it down. A piece of rag or felt
1" X 6" was pushed through the bottom of each cup to wick up the water and
help get the plant started.
Have fun, Joel
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Subject: Re: Pictures/attachments, was Re: Root Crops
From: Bagelhole1
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:28:14 EDT
In a message dated 9/15/99 10:45:41 PM, jewel.lopez@worldnet.att.net writes:
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Great Idea! Tom O (bagelhole1)
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Subject: Re: ozone generators
From: "JAY MYERS"
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:36:15 -0500
Jewel -
By Fish DO I meant dissolved oxygen for the fish. Within the last 2 months
someone on the list offered help in building an inexpensive ozone generator
but I can't find who. Any help would be appreciated.
My system here in Panama City, Florida is coming together. Grow beds will
be finished by Sunday, Fish tank is in the ground, and the State Ag
inspector is due here Tuesday to check & issue permit (I hope). Rest of
greenhouse should complete in a week or so.
Jay
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Subject: Re: Pictures/attachments, was Re: Root Crops
From: Joy Pye-MacSwain
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1980 23:40:27 -0300
I like this idea..... count us in....
Joy Pye-MacSwain
Future Aqua Farms
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Subject: Trout dietary needs
From: "Jewel Lopez"
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 20:41:36 -0600
Can anyone tell me what trout eat in their natural environment, and what =
they are fed in an aquaculture setup?
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Subject: Re: ozone generators
From: "Jewel Lopez"
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 20:52:09 -0600
I can think of some things that might work, but does anyone know the effects
of ozonated water on the fish? Ozone isn't just regular oxygen, its got
that free radical molecule that jumps off and oxidizes things. That would
be great if it was good for the fish. But in any case, here's one idea for
a simple cheap system. Some ozone systems use UV lights (sometimes called
"blacklights"). You can find the florescent UV tubes all over, I've seen
them at some walmarts, and you can get a complete 18" unit with fixture from
those Spencer gift shops that are in most big malls. It would just be a
matter of putting it into a little box, then using an aquarium air pump to
take the air from there, and bring it into the water as usual. You could
even get your fish some cool '60's blacklight posters and they can have a
party!
Good luck with your permit.
Jewel
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Subject: Re: Communal Website
From: Dave Miller
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:58:29 -0400
Aquaponikers,
The group effort os sharing a site is a wonderful idea. It will grow
leaps and bounds and add greatly to the current forum with the emphasis
on visual (jpeg's) and archiving? no doubt. Plus history is showing that
these communal efforts are just what we need.
Good luck to us all.......
recycler dave
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Nothing is lost when a candle lights another candle.
Light the fire of knowledge.
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Subject: Re: Pictures/attachments, was Re: Root Crops
From: atkindw@cwjamaica.com (david w atkinson)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:05:03 -0400
Good idea. We can explore the idea further.
David
At 12:55 PM 09/15/1999 -0600, you wrote:
>I was just thinking it would be great for everyone in the group to have a
>group website where they could put a picture or two if they wanted, list
>their name, email address, and describe what systems they are doing (or
>planning). We would be willing to provide that, if there is a need or
>demand for it. Let me know what you think everyone.
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Subject: Re: Root Crops
From: "Jerry Fuelling"
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 19:54:56 -0500
Mike:
I have grown carrots in 14x20x4.5" "nursery flats filled with vermiculite.
This top tray has 1/4" holes in the bottom. This top tray sits on a second
tray with solid bottom filled with nutrient solution. I harvest the carrots
when they are several inches long for my root lab. These carrots have all
of the root hairs missing from cleaned mini carrots from the store. Taste
better too.
Jerry Fuelling
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Subject: Re: Pictures/attachments, was Re: Root Crops
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:43:37 -0500
At 10:05 PM 09/15/1999 -0400, you wrote:
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>Good idea. We can explore the idea further.
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>David
>At 12:55 PM 09/15/1999 -0600, you wrote:
>>I was just thinking it would be great for everyone in the group to have a
>>group website where they could put a picture or two if they wanted, list
>>their name, email address, and describe what systems they are doing (or
>>planning). We would be willing to provide that, if there is a need or
>>demand for it. Let me know what you think everyone.
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I have no problem with making additions to our site - it's due for revisions
anyway. And then the system pictures/links would be in the same location as
the aquaponics mail group is promoted. If one of you has the technical
know-how, let me know and we'll see what we can get worked out. Otherwise,
I'll talk to our local ISP "wizards" and have them do it.
Paula
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