Aquaponics Digest - Fri 10/15/99




Message   1: duckweed

             from dbenhart@essex1.com (David Benhart)

Message   2: Re: duckweed

             from 

Message   3: Clams and Water Hyacinth?

             from Bagelhole1

Message   4: RE: duckweed

             from "Ronald W. Brooks" 

Message   5: OT?: Wild Koi

             from Jim Sealy Jr 

Message   6: RE: Purslane Anyone?

             from "Charlie Shultz" 

Message   7: Re: Purslane anyone?

             from "TGTX" 

Message   8: Re: Purslane Anyone?

             from "TGTX" 

Message   9: Re: Purslane anyone?

             from dreadlox@cwjamaica.com (michael kent barnett)

Message  10: Re: Purslane anyone?

             from Bevanron 

Message  11: RE: Purslane anyone?

             from "Ronald W. Brooks" 

Message  12: Re: Purslane anyone?

             from dreadlox@cwjamaica.com (michael kent barnett)

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Subject: duckweed

From:    dbenhart@essex1.com (David Benhart)

Date:    Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:57:20 -0700

have a small pond that is covered with duckweed.  can this be fed to my

talapia?

                                          dave

                                          shore acres greenhouse

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Subject: Re: duckweed

From:    

Date:    Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:09:07 + 5 EST

Dave,

We tried to grow some duckweed for experiments  in my Biology class with my

students in our tilapia tanks - had to cancel the lab 

because they destroyed it all and they ate every last drop!  So, my  gut

instinct is to say "Yes, feed them!"  (although in here I am 

usually proven wrong)

Mik

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Subject: Clams and Water Hyacinth?

From:    Bagelhole1

Date:    Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:42:57 EDT

I have learned alot from my fish loss (all). Never to be a fish under my 

care! Plus much more. I have been advised to try clams (alive or dead) to 

help the fish urine to become nitrates instead of nitrites and water hyacinth 

as a purifier. Remember, I have decided to create an eco-environment. I have 

learned to not buy so many big fish when starting, and to start gradually. 

Now, I am looking for freshwater clams, I prefer live ones. Any opinions?

                                                                Gratefully,

                                                                Tom O

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Subject: RE: duckweed

From:    "Ronald W. Brooks" 

Date:    Fri, 15 Oct 1999 13:40:14 -0400

They relish the stuff. Every once in a while I would give the breeders a

treat of this. It was gone in minutes.

Ron

The One Who Walks Two Paths

ICQ 44271371

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Subject: OT?: Wild Koi

From:    Jim Sealy Jr 

Date:    Fri, 15 Oct 1999 13:20:17 -0500

As odd as this sounds, I had a fellow at work tell me he'd caught some

Koi  in a local creek. Just went out with a net and came back with some

of the best looking mixed koi I've seen! I couldn't believe it, until I

saw for myself. Turns out it's a depression in the creek, down stream

from an old Japanese garden and these are the descendants of fish

washing out of this garden somehow. Sounds like the 'sump fry' situation

discussed a while back.

I plan a field trip with net and tank truck for next weekend to retrieve

more.

Jim

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Subject: RE: Purslane Anyone?

From:    "Charlie Shultz" 

Date:    Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:36:26 PDT

One more comment from St. Croix:

"In the US Virgin Islands, young stems and leaves have been eaten raw or 

cooked as a pot herb and used in kallaloo.  Leaves have also been used as a 

survival food and to quench thirst during emergencies.  The plant contains 

omega-3 fatty acids, calcium, and is a good source of antioxidants.  

HOWEVER, the oxalic acid and oxalates in the leaves may interfere with the 

absorption of calcium."

Locally, I have been cautioned against consistant use of puslane, (remember 

Lumumba, Rebecca), due to the interference of calcium absorption.  This same 

herbalist told me this was the food of Mahatma Gandhi (?).

For last years Agriculture and Food Fair here on St. Croix, I set up a 

display of various aquaponic crops.  The focus of the UVI tent was medicinal 

plants.  Just two weeks before the fair, I reached down and up-rooted some 

purslane.  After washing the roots, I placed the bunch into a net cup and 

floated it on the raft.  Within two weeks I had a mass of roots, leaves, 

stems and flowers that made quite a conversation piece at the fair.  Most 

people didn't realize the nutrition/health benefits of the very common local 

weed.

Occassionally I mix it into my salads, and I think it has a nice crisp mild 

taste.

Until later,

Charlie

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Subject: Re: Purslane anyone?

From:    "TGTX" 

Date:    Fri, 15 Oct 1999 19:02:00 -0500

> Purslane grows wild in my gardens where there is bare dirt. A member of

> the portulaca family it is delicious young and raw in salads. Quite high

> in vitamin C!

Yes indeed, a very, very good source of vitamin C!.

I propose that those who can grow both watercress and purslane try feeding

both to the Tilapia.  See what happens.  Please report back to us your

observations of the response from the fish - compare the response to

watercress and purslane.

Ted

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Subject: Re: Purslane Anyone?

From:    "TGTX" 

Date:    Fri, 15 Oct 1999 19:14:23 -0500

> One more comment from St. Croix:

>

> "In the US Virgin Islands, young stems and leaves have been eaten raw or

> cooked as a pot herb and used in kallaloo.  Leaves have also been used as

a

> survival food and to quench thirst during emergencies.  The plant contains

> omega-3 fatty acids, calcium, and is a good source of antioxidants.

> HOWEVER, the oxalic acid and oxalates in the leaves may interfere with the

> absorption of calcium."

I agree with the oxalic acid precaution, but only to a small degree.  I dont

think we should worry too much about it.  We also have oxalic acid in

spinach, and related plants such as chard, beet leaf, etc.  Drinking lots of

water high in calcium or taking calcium citrate supplements (much more

available calcium than oyster shell or dolomite) should be more than enough

to take care of oxalic acid concerns.  Those with a history of gallstones

and kidney stones need to take extra care with oxalic acid, but I think a

world of problems can be prevented by drinking lots of water - 8 to 10

8ounce glasses of water a day or more - not just water high in calcium, but

as a means of flushing out the system, etc....

Please do share the kallaloo story.

Ted

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Subject: Re: Purslane anyone?

From:    dreadlox@cwjamaica.com (michael kent barnett)

Date:    Sat, 16 Oct 1999 02:53:12 -0700

Adrianna check out....

http://www.wholeherb.com/BBS/wwwboard/messages/3913.htm

Youve got me stunted!! Yesterday I went to my Moms and was telling her

she wasnt so much off her rockers eating "that stuff" ...(purslane)She

told me she had learnt about it from an old woman who we used to trade

off with on vegetables with dry goods. This old (illiterate) woman knew

herbs and bushes like her handmiddle... she used to call it

"parsley"..and was the first to take me on a trek that would only be

"down the road", seemed more like 3 hours, but when we got there I saw a

"captured" plot of land as impeccable as a high tech farm, everything

was in line and angled at 90 degrees etc.Thorn fence and all, secret

traps and moats etc..all of a sudden i thought this was the coolest

thing Id ever seen...

I remember as a little boy looking up at this wrinkled woman who was

very poor and learning and important lesson...

God doesnt bestow us with degrees and papers to hang on the wall, things

we have created, he gave us basic  instincts and talents, things

University and money cant buy!! I seemed to have lost a preconcieved

idea that day, poverty is not a measure of ability!!

she used to cook it with callaloo, (a type of spinach) and chicken, and

okras. She used to say it was good for the heart.

BTW I saw Charlie Schultz (big up rude bwoy!!) call something else

kallaloo, and last week I spoke with a Haitian woman who called

tuberlike callaloo!!!

Well the old ladies hut eventually collapsed in the rains once, it was

so  old.... but hey she swears the roots have kept her, we had to bathe

her and take her to an old peoples home (who ya callin old??) and I hear

shes the hottest thing there...

Her age ? Going on 100!!

Sorry for drifting back with ya'll.... as Tedzo would say... these

things rub off ya know....

 

> very attractive and have a nice crunchy texture.

> 

> I would like to offer purslane to my other chefs along with some recipe

> suggestions.

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Subject: Re: Purslane anyone?

From:    Bevanron 

Date:    Fri, 15 Oct 1999 21:18:14 -0400

> >

> > I would like to offer purslane to my other chefs along with some recipe

> > suggestions.

Whenever I make anything with tomato sauce(spaghetti sauce and other

Italian style dishes), I go out and pick some purslane out of the

garden, dice it up and add it.  It gives a nice zip to a tomato base.  I

also used it in addition to citric acid when canning tomatoes.  It is

good for you and the acid(oxalic I would presume) helps with the

preserving process.  Hope this gives you some recipe ideas.

Bev

-- 

erthnsky@bellsouth.net

Bevanron of EarthNSky Farm

34.469 N   85.082W

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Subject: RE: Purslane anyone?

From:    "Ronald W. Brooks" 

Date:    Fri, 15 Oct 1999 21:33:34 -0400

Will do

as soon as I go out and find some :)

Ron

The One Who Walks Two Paths

ICQ 4427137

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Subject: Re: Purslane anyone?

From:    dreadlox@cwjamaica.com (michael kent barnett)

Date:    Sat, 16 Oct 1999 03:45:50 -0700

> erthnsky@bellsouth.net

> Bevanron of EarthNSky Farm

> 34.469=B0 N   85.082=B0W

OK so who was in the Air Force here??

;)

Cool..



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