Aquaponics Digest - Sat 11/27/99
Message 1: AEON Foundation provides authors with 150 US$ award
from Jacky Foo
Message 2: Archives, was Re: Details, but Gentlemen, & is this the place?
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 3: Re: Archives, was Re: Details, but Gentlemen, & is this the place?
from "TGTX"
Message 4: about feeding catfish
from Bagelhole1
Message 5: Thank you Paula and Tom
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 6: Hydro List
from Brian Gracia
Message 7: Re: Archives, was Re: Details, but Gentlemen, & is this the
place?
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 8: Re: Hydro List
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 9: Re: Archives, was Re: Details, but Gentlemen, & is this theplace?
from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Message 10: Hydroponics list new info, was Thank you Paula and Tom
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 11: Re: about feeding catfish
from Brian Gracia
Message 12: Re: Archives, was Re: Details, but Gentlemen, & is this theplace?
from Jim Sealy Jr
Message 13: Re: about feeding catfish
from Jim Sealy Jr
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Subject: AEON Foundation provides authors with 150 US$ award
From: Jacky Foo
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:04:18 +0100
Hello Everyone
I am happy to announce that the AEON Foundation of Japan has agreed to
co-sponsor the Internet Conference on Material Flow
Analysis of Integrated Bio-Systems, March-Oct 2000 (see
http://www.ias.unu.edu/proceedings/icibs/ic-mfa for scope, conference theme
and other instructions). A portion of the funds received will be used as
awards for the presentation of papers with authors or co-authors from
developing countries. About 25 awards of 150 US$ are available and intended
to cover costs related to the preparation and presentation of papers as
well as to encourage local colleagues to participate.
Please take advantage of this award opportunity to present a paper !
So far; 10 abstracts (P1-P10) in the tentative list (below) of titles of
papers have been approved and the rest are in the review process.
****Tentative List of Papers
P1 - Kefa V O Rabah (Kenya) : Application of Sugarcane Residues as Biofuel
for Cogeneration of Electricity Kenya
P2 - H.Losada, et al. (Mexico): Recycling of solid wastes in the east of
Mexico City by livestock and agricultural production systems.
P3 - Simon Appleby & E.L. Foo (Indonesia/Sweden): Integrated bio-system for
a feedlot-abattoir-meat processing and research complex in Bali
P4 - Li Kangmin & Wang Qiuhua (P R China). Nutrient flow analysis in
a digester-fishpond integrated bio-system
P5 - Song Xiangfu, Ying Huodong, Wu Weiming, Jin Qianyu, Zou Guoyan and Li
Kangmin*. (P.R: China) Study on surface aquaponics in natural waters with
nutrient flow analysis
P6 - Christina Aristanti (Indonesia) : From wastes to employment and
environment improvement opportunities.
P7 - Amrit B. Karki and Upendra Gautam (Nepal): Community
Latrine-cum-biogas plant at Ward No. 1 of Pathari VDC of Morang District of
Nepal.
P8 - Julian David Chara & Elkin Dario Pulido (Colombia): Material flow in
"Pozo Verde" Integrated Farm in Cauca Valley Province, Colombia.
P9 - D. Craig Sheppard & G. Larry Newton (USA): Black Soldier Fly Larvae
Produce High Quality Feedstuff from Manure
P10 - Anna Hedlund (Sweden) : A theoretical integrated nutrient flow on a
farm with three sub-systems in a village in Southern Vietnam
P11 - Sudhira H.S. & Ann Jacob (India): Reutilisation of byproducts of
coir industry : A Case Study.
P12 - Paul Adler (USA) : Phytoremediation of aquaculture effluents with
lettuce and basil.
P13 - D K Saxena (India) : Metal Pollution in river Ra Ganga and its
recovery through aquatic plant
P14 - Jagannath Venkataramaih (India): Scales of Operations on Community
Based Solid Wastes Management in India
P15 - Jean-Pierre Bayala (Belgium) : Village-based integrated waste water
treatment system at Women's Association of Song Taaba, Burkina Faso.
P16 - Nguyen Van Trung (Vietnam) : Fertiliser value in biogas technology
systems in Vietnam
P17 - Mark J. Brotman (USA): Recovery and Utilization of By-Products from
Greenhouse Operations with respect to Recirculating Aquaculture, Hydroponic
and Mushroom Cultivation Systems
P18 - S.M.Shehata, et al. (Egypt) : Rural Development through Integrated
Waste Management
2nd CALL FOR ABSTRACTS
We are looking for another 20 abstract submissions and would like to invite
you to consider making a presentation of your work that can quantify the
flow of materials through integrated bio-systems in one of the 11
conference themes (see http://www.ias.unu.edu/proceedings/icibs/ic-mfa).
The deadline for the 2nd Call for Abstracts is 31 Dec. 1999.
A final call of abstracts will be released in January 2000.
SUBMISSION OF ABSTRACT
An abstract should not be more than 1 page in size and may contain text,
table, diagrams, etc. It should include the title of paper, full name(s)
and
postal and email address(es) of author(s), summary and keywords.
Please send your abstract(s) to foo@swipnet.se.
All submitted abstracts will be reviewed by the Planning Group of the
Conference. Authors should wait for formal notification of acceptance of
the abstracts before proceeding into the preparation of the full paper(s).
-----regards
Mr. Eng-Leong "Jacky" Foo
Co-ordinator, Integrated Bio-Systems Network
http://www.ias.unu.edu/proceedings/icibs/ibs/ibsnet
P.S: Note on Registration:
Registration to receive news and updates that is useful for your
participation at the Conference is free. You can view news items on the web
http://segate.sunet.se/archives/et-w11.html or receive them by email. To
receive items via email, you need to subscribe to the Conference mailing
list. Use the LISTSERV subscription command :
SUB ET-W11 yourfirstname yourlastname
and send your subscription to listserv@segate.sunet.se
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Subject: Archives, was Re: Details, but Gentlemen, & is this the place?
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 08:29:15 -0600
At 12:55 AM 11/18/1999 -0500, Dave Miller wrote:
>> Paula, perhaps we could add a simple link at the bottom of the
>> list-serve to an area where those who have the time, energy etc. can
>> post their findings.
>
>Didn't several offers come a month or two ago to do the archiving, offer
>the bandwidth and so on? What came of it?
There have been many offers to help with the archives, both on and off list,
and I appreciate all the suggestions and offers for various ways in which we
might make the archived posts available.
Just wanted to let you know that we've decided on a location and the files
will be available soon. Although the format at first may be strictly full
copies of the digest version (so they can be viewed according to date), it
will soon after be a searchable archive. As my time permits the extraneous
posts will be removed (although I know how much you all enjoy reading
someone else's "unsubscribe" requests). And Jim has plans to make it very
user-friendly, because of course he and I have as much to gain from an
easily usable site as anyone else in the group....
At any rate, I just wanted you to know that it's close to completion. I do
appreciate all the input on the subject and the personal offers I've
received. Long-time member and contributor Jim Sealy will be doing the
"heavy" work and providing the site and tech support, and it looks to be a
great resource for the group when completed. We have almost two years of
activity to transfer.
In the meantime, current life responsibilities still take first priority.
As soon as it's available, we'll post an announcement along with instructions.
Have a great holiday season.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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Subject: Re: Archives, was Re: Details, but Gentlemen, & is this the place?
From: "TGTX"
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:07:45 -0600
Paula, you wrote:
> At any rate, I just wanted you to know that it's close to completion. I
do
> appreciate all the input on the subject and the personal offers I've
> received. Long-time member and contributor Jim Sealy will be doing the
> "heavy" work and providing the site and tech support, and it looks to be a
> great resource for the group when completed. We have almost two years of
> activity to transfer.
>
Paula, at the risk of sounding maudlin, I want to thank you and Tom for all
you have done to promote aquaponics via this forum. As you likely know,
aquaponics is a passion and a "cause" for me personally, and you guys are
very much a part of my involvement in it.
Apart from my long standing academic interest in aquaponics and controlled
environment agriculture, I greatly appreciate interacting with those who are
not afraid to take risks, and get sweaty, and get their fingernails dirty,
and bust some knuckles if necessary to do real work in the real world. So
thanks again, and also to Jim Sealy for his work in getting this into an
archived format. And all the others in the group...both the semi-lurkers
and the "regulars"- as long as we get off our duffs and do some of this
stuff we talk about here in this forum, then it has all been worth it,
because although it is not an environmental panacea, I do know from
experience that aquaponics is Do-able and it is Fun to do.
I will be relocating - moving my household and everything soon. I will have
to change my email address, and everything, so in a few weeks I will drop
off the radar screen for a while. By Jan 1, 2000, tho', I should be up an
running again...as long as the Y2K thing doesn't flare up...and I don't
think it will, at least from a technical standpoint on the Internet, etc..
I hope to rejoin this group after a few weeks of moving boxes and visiting
the landfill to eliminate all the stuff I have accumulated here, there,and
everywhere over the last 15 years. Oy vey!
The last 2 years or so on this list has been fun and educational....thought
provoking....and challenging....to me personally, so I appreciate it very
much.
Thanks for letting us be both as academic, studious and serious as it gets,
and at the same time as comical and as ridiculous as it gets on this list at
times...I know that some folks don't appreciate the silliness, which is
understandable to a degree, I suppose, but as I said before, if I can't
dance, I don't want to be a part of the revolution.
Ted
(Another Swirling Dervish for Aquaponics)
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Subject: about feeding catfish
From: Bagelhole1
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:16:35 EST
Question: I have added 7 - 2 lb catfish to my raceway, along with water
hyacinth, watercress, and a few other plants, a long roll of hay in mesh,
some clams and clamshells. Do I need to feed them something or will they find
enough in the raceway? So far they have existed about a week with no feeding.
They hide under the roll of hay. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Tom O
http://bagelhole.org
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Subject: Thank you Paula and Tom
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:12:20 -0500
That is fantastic news Paula. I would like to take this opportunit to
thank you and Tom again for your ongoing sponsorship of this forum, your
generous sharing of your experience and your wise counsel to novices and
aquaponics wannabes.
Do you recall a guy on the Hydro list who put together a searchable
archive in what seemed like days? (Speaking of which, have you heard
from the Hydro list lately? I have gotten nothing since October 31 and
Inter Urban Water Farms didn't respond to my e-mail about it)
Adriana
> Just wanted to let you know that we've decided on a location and the files
> will be available soon.
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Subject: Hydro List
From: Brian Gracia
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:40:14 -0600
Hello,
I just had to post this. The Hydroponic Society of America just switched
the list to ListBot. Try this link to resubscribe.
http://hsa.hydroponics.org
Brian Gracia
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Better Produce through Better Control
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Subject: Re: Archives, was Re: Details, but Gentlemen, & is this the
place?
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:36:42 -0600
At 09:07 AM 11/27/1999 -0600, Ted (one of our favorite Texans) wrote:
>Paula, at the risk of sounding maudlin, I want to thank you and Tom for all
>you have done to promote aquaponics via this forum. As you likely know,
>aquaponics is a passion and a "cause" for me personally, and you guys are
>very much a part of my involvement in it.>The last 2 years or so on this
list has been fun and educational....thought provoking....and
challenging....to me personally, so I appreciate it very much.
Thanks Ted, and I especially appreciate your posts - in all their various forms.
>I will be relocating - moving my household and everything soon. I will have
>to change my email address, and everything, so in a few weeks I will drop
>off the radar screen for a while.
Hope that this is a desired move for you, and we'll look forward to having
you back.
>Thanks for letting us be both as academic, studious and serious as it gets,
>and at the same time as comical and as ridiculous as it gets on this list at
>times...I know that some folks don't appreciate the silliness, which is
>understandable to a degree, I suppose, but as I said before, if I can't
>dance, I don't want to be a part of the revolution.
I think sometimes we all tend to take ourselves too seriously; and while I
can genuinely understand that some things just don't fit in with our
"schedule for the day", I think we each can use a little "silliness" once in
a while -- besides, it's one of those things that reveals a little more
about the individual on the other side of this cybercommunity. There are
many folks on this list whom we've met and others we hope to meet someday.
Comments that reveal a little about that person's "other self" are
automatically tucked away for when they might be used in a face-to-face, and
I'm comfortable with that.
Of course, this is a good time to remind everyone that what's "gone before"
and will be posted from here on out will be visible to those outside this
community of aquaponickers (or whatever you always call us). It should be
good for the industry, good for those seeking information, and probably only
somewhat embarrassing in rare instances. I'll probably be one of the first
to "wish I'd never said THAT on the list"! :>)
Hope your move goes smoothly.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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Subject: Re: Hydro List
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:43:27 -0500
Thanks Brian. It was nice of them to tell us. :(
Adriana
> I just had to post this. The Hydroponic Society of America just switched
> the list to ListBot.
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Subject: Re: Archives, was Re: Details, but Gentlemen, & is this theplace?
From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:44:33 -0500
> Hope your move goes smoothly.
What do you bet he's moving to a sod yurt?
Adriana
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Subject: Hydroponics list new info, was Thank you Paula and Tom
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:40:13 -0600
At 08:12 PM 11/27/1999 -0500, Adriana wrote:
>That is fantastic news Paula. I would like to take this opportunit to
>thank you and Tom again for your ongoing sponsorship of this forum, your
>generous sharing of your experience and your wise counsel to novices and
>aquaponics wannabes.
>
>Do you recall a guy on the Hydro list who put together a searchable
>archive in what seemed like days? (Speaking of which, have you heard
>from the Hydro list lately? I have gotten nothing since October 31 and
>Inter Urban Water Farms didn't respond to my e-mail about it)
The mail group is a great way for us to continue to promote aquaponics, and
you can be sure that we learn as much from this group as anyone. I
appreciate all those who participate and keep the info "rolling".
I did receive notice about the new location/format or whatever for the hydro
list, and there has been quite a few postings over the last few days. I
thought if you were already a subscriber it was an automatic notice, but
just in case some others were dropped in error, here's a copy of the post I
received just as they got themselves back "on the air".
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It was decided that we needed to switch to a new list-server. There had
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I would like to ask you all to please forward your feedback about the
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I'd like to thank Shon and Rebecca Taylor at InterUrban WaterFarms for
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Subject: Re: about feeding catfish
From: Brian Gracia
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:50:37 -0600
At 11:16 AM 11/27/99 , you wrote:
>Question: I have added 7 - 2 lb catfish to my raceway, along with water
>hyacinth, watercress, and a few other plants, a long roll of hay in mesh,
>some clams and clamshells. Do I need to feed them something or will they
find
>enough in the raceway? So far they have existed about a week with no
feeding.
>They hide under the roll of hay. Any ideas?
> Thanks,
>Tom O
>http://bagelhole.org
>
Tom,
You will need to feed them. Unless your raceway sports insects, tadpols
and other small fish/animals, the catfish will starve. I have seen catfish
eat algea, but I doubt that your raceway is loaded with the stuff.
Just want to acknowledge you efforts in making the world a better place!
Brian Gracia
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Better Produce through Better Control
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Subject: Re: Archives, was Re: Details, but Gentlemen, & is this theplace?
From: Jim Sealy Jr
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:14:57 -0600
I'm bettin' on Biosphere III. Can I come visit? I'll bring my own
air.. Ok, it's mostly 'hot air', but maybe we can run a sterling cycle
engine off it.
Seriously.. Hope the move goes well for you and yours, Ted. Be looking
forward to hearing back from you in the new year.
Jim
Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta wrote:
>
> > Hope your move goes smoothly.
>
> What do you bet he's moving to a sod yurt?
>
> Adriana
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Subject: Re: about feeding catfish
From: Jim Sealy Jr
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 20:30:25 -0600
Tom,
Where did you get the catfish? Were they farm raised or wild? How large
is your raceway? How much hay did you add? Are there any clams left or
have the catfish eaten them already? what sort of substrate is there
in your raceway? What sort of filter do you have now? Are these meant
for pets or table fare?
Off the cuff, if they're farm raised channel cats, I'd say feed the fish
a good handful (~3/4 cup) of floating 30% protein catfish feed, a little
at a time, morning and night and then increase the ration until there's
some left after 15 minutes.
If they're wild caught, try to get them to eat some liver and a little
processed feed until they're used to the pellets alone.
Bagelhole1 wrote:
>
> Question: I have added 7 - 2 lb catfish to my raceway, along with water
> hyacinth, watercress, and a few other plants, a long roll of hay in mesh,
> some clams and clamshells. Do I need to feed them something or will they find
> enough in the raceway? So far they have existed about a week with no feeding.
> They hide under the roll of hay. Any ideas?
> Thanks,
> Tom O
> http://bagelhole.org
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