Aquaponics Digest - Mon 12/13/99




Message   1: Plastic Tubs

             from Bill 

Message   2: Re: Aquasafra

             from "Mark Brotman" 

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             from "Palchik" 

Message   4: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Wed  12/08/99

             from dbenhart@essex1.com (David Benhart)

Message   5: Re: fish feed

             from Marc & Marcy 

Message   6: Re: using fish effluent

             from S & S Aqua Farm 

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Subject: Plastic Tubs

From:    Bill 

Date:    12 Dec 99 22:57:02 PST

>Message   7: Re: More thoughts on wholesalers + packaging question

             from Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta              =

*Encore Industries, Inc, If I got the correct top to the container,

sells plastic translucent (not quite trasparent) containers to

the paint end-user industry retail.  Up to 5 Qt, round, flat lid.

Beefy yet disposable. May/may not be able to certify for food, but

is similar to the 3 gal bulk ice cream is Pak-n-Sav Groceries.

They are more transparent.

Bill =

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Subject: Re: Aquasafra

From:    "Mark Brotman" 

Date:    Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:09:32 -0500

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Aquasafra seems to be one of the better commercial tilapia fry producers.  I've

had some good conversations with the fellow who runs the place.  He appears to

have a good track record on diseases, which of course is paramount.  You may

have trouble getting the fry/fingerlings in small quantities though.

Mark

Jay Myers wrote:

> Has anyone purchased fingerling from Aquasafra in Bradenton, Fl ?  Anything

> good or not so good to say ???

>

> Jay

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Mark J. Brotman

Aquaculturist

CropKing

5050 Greenwich Rd.

Seville, OH  44273

Tel: 330/769-2002, Fax: 330/769-2616

Email: mbrotman@cropking.com

On the web at http://www.cropking.com

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Date:    Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:45:02 +0200

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------=_NextPart_000_003D_01BF4591.C8606C00-- .------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------. | Message 4 | '------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------' Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Wed 12/08/99 From: dbenhart@essex1.com (David Benhart) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:46:24 -0800 the watercress I get comes from a small spring fed pond. It doesn't like the hot water in my tanks, it grows best in cool water. I just go every week or so and bring home a BUNCH and put it in a large cooler filled with cold water from which I feed the talapia Dave Benhart Gail Hall wrote: > >Subject: Re: fish feed > >From: dbenhart@essex1.com (David Benhart) > >Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 18:47:10 -0800 > > > >I have watercress that is still growing in northern Illinois My talpia > >love it, they sort of graze on it and I give them much less ( food) . > >If any > >one wants some let me know now I can still send some . E-mail me off list > >and I can send some, when you put it in a pond or? it grows well. > > Later > > I grow watercress in Oregon and have trouble in the winter. We have > pretty low light and, of course, it is coldish. I keep the greenhouse at > 50. Could you tell me your conditions there and what pest problems or > other problems you have had and solutions you have tried. > > Gail Hall, Tender Greens .------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------. | Message 5 | '------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------' Subject: Re: fish feed From: Marc & Marcy Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:41:18 -0700 David Benhart wrote: > > I have watercress that is still growing in northern Illinois My talpia > love it, they sort of graze on it and I give them much less ( food) . If any > one wants some let me know now I can still send some . E-mail me off list > and I can send some, when you put it in a pond or? it grows well. > Later > I would be interested in some of this watercress. Marc S. Nameth 5856 Rd HH.5 Fowler, CO 81039 719 263 5492 .------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------. | Message 6 | '------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------' Subject: Re: using fish effluent From: S & S Aqua Farm Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:53:05 -0600 Alon, I'm trying to understand the conditions under which you're allowed to grow organically there, according to the IFOAM regulations you mentioned: At 02:48 PM 12/12/1999 +0200, Alon wrote: >Dear Paula, >My system doesn't recycle the water because of IFOAM regulations for >organic crops that disallows hydroponic farming allowing only plants whose >roots are connected to the soil. In your earlier post, you said that you wished to "realize a low tech/high tech self supporting and economically feasible integrated ecological farm." And that you had fish growing in (I think) an intensive system using a trickle filter and 02 generator which together cost you about $300 USD/month to run. All I was suggesting was that you adjust to a "growing" filter using plants, while eliminating the cost of both your filter and 02 generator. In fact, you'd be producing income in addition to eliminating the cost of the equipment and their electric use. I thought this fit into your goal. Even if IFOAM regulations don't allow organic certification (with the higher value you mentioned) for the crops, they would certainly add to the profit picture instead of being just a cost factor in the fish production. You also said: >One problem with the Asian systems is that for my needs they are not >intensive enough since I have limited space and water and must make the >maximum amount of income from a small unit. I think I don't really understand what you mean by this. Could you explain further? >From what type of reclaimed water do you produce fish? The fish are produced in the recirculating water cleaned by the plants and bacteria in the filtering grow beds. How do you solve >the problems of heavy metals or bacterial contamination in the fish meat? >From where do you envision this contamination coming? Paula S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124 Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/

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