Aquaponics Digest - Tue 12/14/99
Message 1: Re: Aquasafra
from Chris Weaver
Message 2: Re: Aquaponics in Ontario
from Chris Weaver
Message 3: Re: Aquaponics in Ontario
from "Jay Myers"
Message 4: Little hopping, white, fluffly monsters
from Vik Olliver
Message 5: Re: Big customer commitments
from wills/nachreiner
Message 6: Re: Aquaponics in Ontario
from Chris Weaver
Message 7: packaging question
from ranchos@sol.racsa.co.cr
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Subject: Re: Aquasafra
From: Chris Weaver
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:36:12 -0500
Jay:
I have purchased over 50,000 fry from Aquasafra in the past (now breed my own)
and have always liked the fish that I received. The numbers are always
accurate and usually you will enjoy a significant overcount. Growth is
excellent. I beleive that he uses a cross between Aurea and Nilotica so cold
tolerance should also be good if you have trouble keeping your water warm.
Regards,
Chris Weaver
Jay Myers wrote:
> Has anyone purchased fingerling from Aquasafra in Bradenton, Fl ? Anything
> good or not so good to say ???
>
> Jay
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Subject: Re: Aquaponics in Ontario
From: Chris Weaver
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:42:07 -0500
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Nilo:
I operate a 6000 sq ft greenhouse near Toronto where I grow 200,000 lbs
of tilapia and do aquaponics above the fish tanks. I am now growing
peppers, tomotoes, chives, lettuces and other herbs. Contact me if I
can be of any assistance. P.S. the growing of any fish is feasible but
not necesarily economical. Tilapia prices are low and you have to be
very efficient to make money at it right now.
Regards,
Chris Weaver
Nilo Lancita wrote:
> Hi to you all, Anybody out there who could advise me on the
> feasibility of aquaponics or just a tilapia culture in
> Ontario. regards,acehi
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Nilo:
I operate a 6000 sq ft greenhouse near Toronto where I grow 200,000
lbs of tilapia and do aquaponics above the fish tanks. I am now growing
peppers, tomotoes, chives, lettuces and other herbs. Contact
me if I can be of any assistance. P.S. the growing of any fish is
feasible but not necesarily economical. Tilapia prices are low and
you have to be very efficient to make money at it right now.
Regards,
Chris Weaver
Nilo Lancita wrote:
Hi to you
all, Anybody out
there who could advise me on the feasibility of aquaponics or just a tilapia
culture in Ontario. regards,acehi
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Subject: Re: Aquaponics in Ontario
From: "Jay Myers"
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:46:48 -0600
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Chris
I too want to put a grow facility over my fish tank. Is there a web =
site I could look at showing how you went about that ? Thanks.
Jay Myers
Panama City Beach, Fl.
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peppers, tomotoes, chives, lettuces and other herbs. Contact me if I =
can be of any assistance. P.S. the growing of any fish is feasible but =
not necesarily economical. Tilapia prices are low and you have to be =
very efficient to make money at it right now.=20
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Subject: Little hopping, white, fluffly monsters
From: Vik Olliver
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:19:49 +1200
A horde of little, white, hopping, fluffy monsters have invaded my
cucumbers.
What's good for getting rid of them aside from a flamethrower or
chemical warfare?
We had a neighbour's huge plum tree try to attack our hydroponic runs
too. The plum tree lost quite badly.
Vik :v)
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A member of The Olliver Family http://olliver.penguinpowered.com
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Subject: Re: Big customer commitments
From: wills/nachreiner
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:23:46 -0600
I liked the message that suggested you look to other local restaurants as
well if you are taking the big leap. 7 years ago we had a customer taking
about 2/3 of our production who decided to bail out as the market was
falling. In the dairy business the milk kept coming and we were swimming
in cheese of declining value and lots of bills. The buyer is a big company
that got that way by putting small suppliers out of business. Make sure
the relationship is good/ great. Contracts are only as good as the
relationship. If they want out they will find something wrong withthe
product that will let them out of the contract. And hedge your bets. We
try to work with a maximum15% rule, figuring that losing an account or two
won't be fatal that way. Can you cover the investment and take the loss on
the plants in the greenhouse if the account moves to "greener" pastures or
just goes funky on you?
At 07:59 AM 12/6/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>The price issue is a corporate one, not a question of me selling sizzle.
>He has the option of using a local supplier as long as they meet the
>company's 'buy' price.
>
>We use reusable cases/polybag liners now where practical, and we ship
>straight from the greenhouse (no processing).
>Guess it would help if I specified what I consider a 'case'. 1 Case =
>6-5lb bags/30lb polycrate/bag liner = ~150-240 servings of baby greens
>(Arugula, Mache, Mizuna, Red mustard, Spinach, and Tatsio + Lolla Rosa,
>green Romaine, and red Romaine)
>
>We run the polycases through a commercial cleaner which resembles a
>drive through carwash( Steam cleaning, followed by a UV/ozone bath
>sterilisation/drying stage).
>
>Thanks for the input so far. More info later..
>
>Jim
>
>
Box185 Plain,Wi 53577
(608) 546-2712
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Subject: Re: Aquaponics in Ontario
From: Chris Weaver
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:58:52 -0500
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Jay:
Sorry, no website to go to. I used to work as a computer technician
some years ago, and I would like to get back into the field by designing
a website but its been a few years and the technology has advaned
ten-fold. Some day I will find time to do it.
Anyways, most of my greenhouse is taken up by four fish raceways
measuring 71x9x4 feet. There is a walkway between the centre two tanks
and the outside tanks with the centre two tanks sharing a central wall.
My growing space is above the tanks. I use both standard 10 ft
eavestrough and custum made galvanized troughs to grow my plants above
the tanks. The plants are suspended from the trusses by 3/8 threaded
rod which then supports 1 1/4 angle iron and 12' 2x4's that then support
the plant troughs. I know this is a little abstract, but best that I
can do w/o a picture to show you. Contact if you need more info.
Jay Myers wrote:
> Chris I too want to put a grow facility over my fish tank. Is there
> a web site I could look at showing how you went about that ?
> Thanks. Jay MyersPanama City Beach, Fl.
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Jay:
Sorry, no website to go to. I used to work as a computer technician
some years ago, and I would like to get back into the field by designing
a website but its been a few years and the technology has advaned ten-fold.
Some day I will find time to do it.
Anyways, most of my greenhouse is taken up by four fish raceways measuring
71x9x4 feet. There is a walkway between the centre two tanks and
the outside tanks with the centre two tanks sharing a central wall.
My growing space is above the tanks. I use both standard 10
ft eavestrough and custum made galvanized troughs to grow my plants above
the tanks. The plants are suspended from the trusses by 3/8
threaded rod which then supports 1 1/4 angle iron and 12' 2x4's that then
support the plant troughs. I know this is a little abstract, but
best that I can do w/o a picture to show you. Contact if you need
more info.
Jay Myers wrote:
Chris I
too want to put a grow facility over my fish tank. Is there a web
site I could look at showing how you went about that ? Thanks. Jay
MyersPanama City Beach, Fl.
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Subject: packaging question
From: ranchos@sol.racsa.co.cr
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:35:48 -0600
Adriana:
At 01:48 PM 12/09/1999 -0500, you wrote:
I'm looking for a packaging alternative to plastic
>bags or Ziplocks which will hold 1# of greens like tatsoi, mizuna or pea
>vines. The ideal package would be a clear plastic box about the size of
>a larfe shoe box.
How about a color-coded cardboard shoebox with a plastic baggie inside?
Shoe boxes ate pretty sturdy.
If too cost-prohibitive: Pick up empties from the restaurant when you
deliver the orders. If the boxes get too soggy from the freezer: feed them
to the worms in your vermiculture bin, and feed the worms to the Tilapia.
Option: Hang around shoestores asking shoe buyers for their boxes. Or buy
lots of shoes.
Jose
Thought for the day:
Even a broken watch shows the right time twice a day.
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