Aquaponics Digest - Sun 03/04/01
Message 1: Re: other lists
from Brian Gracia
Message 2: Re: other lists
from Brian Gracia
Message 3: Red Claw link
from Brian Gracia
Message 4: Re: Texas Tech digester and water reuse
from CAVM 'at' aol.com
Message 5: Building plywood/FRP raceways and tanks
from Darren Pearce
Message 6: Re: Building plywood/FRP raceways and tanks
from Brian Gracia
Message 7: Re: Building plywood/FRP raceways and tanks
from fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
Message 8: Re: other lists
from fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
Message 9: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Sat 03/03/01
from Jai Mani
Message 10: Tilapia in the Buffalo, NY area?
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 11: Re: seeds
from JohnEBook 'at' aol.com
Message 12: Plastic lumber?
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 13: Re: Building plywood/FRP raceways and tanks
from "JAlan Aufderheide"
| Message 1
Subject: Re: other lists
From: Brian Gracia
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 08:35:35 -0600
At 05:37 PM 3/3/2001, you wrote:
>Brian yes i know its been slow. Did you know that at Auburn university
>there is some research going on about redclaws.
>i am trying to get some young from them now just waiting for the email
>.Did you say that you had them in a past email? If so what was your
>experience with them?
>any thing that I can find out about them even mistakes would be helpful
> Bruce
No, I did not have any. Someone else on this list has some and keeps us
posted from time to time.
Here is his contact info. I have saved just about every message of his
that mentions Red Claw. If you want, I can forward them to you.
Name: timjohanns
email: bioman 'at' osage.net
Brian
| Message 2
Subject: Re: other lists
From: Brian Gracia
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 08:38:52 -0600
Yes, every group at Yahoo!Groups has an archive. To get there, first log
in to your account. Go to "My Groups" and then select the group that you
want. The last time I was on, the groups you subscribed to were listed in
the lower left hand corner of your browser. Once selected, a little
calender with the months of the year will appear and you can the go through
the past messages.
Brian
At 08:09 PM 3/3/2001, you wrote:
>Does it have an archive? How do I get there?
>
>Thanks.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Brian Gracia
>To:
>Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 2:38 PM
>Subject: Re: other lists
>
>
> > At 01:04 PM 3/3/2001, you wrote:
> > >AustralianCrayfishAquaculture 'at' yahoo groups.com is the reclaw list that i
> > >am on
> > > Bruce
> >
> >
> > Bruce,
> >
> > I am on that list as well. Pretty slow, so don't expect but just a couple
> > of msgs/mth.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
| Message 3
Subject: Red Claw link
From: Brian Gracia
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 08:53:17 -0600
Bruce and others interested in Red Claw try this link:
http://www.frontierfarming.com
Follow the links for Frontier Farming. You will have to click on some of
the word graphics to navigate the site, but it shows red claw.
Brian
| Message 4
Subject: Re: Texas Tech digester and water reuse
From: CAVM 'at' aol.com
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:10:22 EST
http://www.tcru.ttu.edu/tcru/kc/vista/index.html
This will give you a very good idea of the theory and practice of Dr.
Parker's work.
Cornelius A. Van Milligen
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In a message dated 3/3/2001 10:53:14 PM Central Standard Time,
dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com writes:
<< Dos this project have a dedicated website??
prolly tired maybe lazy... well Ill ask anyway..
Mikey, Jamaica.
CAVM 'at' aol.com wrote:
>
> Look at the Texas Tech web page at the work of Dr. Nick Parker. He is
doing just what you suggest only he starts out with cattle manure, goes to
hydroponics, duckweed, algae, aquaculture and then to an indoor wetland all
in his greenhouses. Except he does not use worms that I saw.
>>
| Message 5
Subject: Building plywood/FRP raceways and tanks
From: Darren Pearce
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:47:36 -0500
Anyone out there with experience in building tanks or raceways with plywood,
fiberglass cloth and polyester resin? ... Other DIY ideas? I am leaning toward
commercially available poly tanks, but this low cost, easily customizable
alternative interest me.
Thanks
Darren
| Message 6
Subject: Re: Building plywood/FRP raceways and tanks
From: Brian Gracia
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:17:14 -0600
I work all day with polyester and acrylic modified polyester resins. Many
professional people have told me that these are not good for use in
aquaculture or water applications (even thought they are used for boats)
for that matter. I make cultured marble vanity tops and solid surface
kitchen counter tops. Polyester works good, don't get me wrong, but I have
seen water slowly penetrate through it. You must use an epoxy resin. I am
currently thinking of doing the same thing. I am looking at building a
tank structure out of 1 1/2" angle iron and using 3/4" plywood coated
epoxy in and out. To give even better seam strength, I am going to use a
cloth tape and filet all corners with epoxy based putty.
Brian
At 01:47 PM 3/4/2001, you wrote:
>Anyone out there with experience in building tanks or raceways with plywood,
>fiberglass cloth and polyester resin? ... Other DIY ideas? I am leaning
>toward
>commercially available poly tanks, but this low cost, easily customizable
>alternative interest me.
>
>Thanks
>Darren
>
| Message 7
Subject: Re: Building plywood/FRP raceways and tanks
From: fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:12:38 -0600 (CST)
The GARFwebsite has what you are looking for ,just size the tank to your
needs.
Its a coral farming website and a good one.
Plywood tanks last about 10 years and can be sealed with
epoxy,fiberglass,formica or
1/8 plexiglass window glass .The wood gives the strength to the thin
plexiglass
Bruce
| Message 8
Subject: Re: other lists
From: fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:29:20 -0600 (CST)
Thanks Brian I would like to see the redclaw posts that you have.Thanks
also for the frontier farms website I was #68 to visit it but for now
its just a picture
Bruce
| Message 9
Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Sat 03/03/01
From: Jai Mani
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:16:05 -0800 (PST)
hello everyone,
I have been a subscriber to this list
for a good while and I learn a lot from reading the
messages when I get the time.
A few months ago someone on this list
mentioned using plastic sheets, similiar and about the
same thinkness as plywood, very durable I understand
it comes in sheets like regular plywood in various
thickneses, and lasts indefinitely. etc.
They were made by a company called Braun
Industries, I don't remember who mentioned this
neither have I been able to find the company.
If there is anyone that does business
with this company or has in the past, would you be
kind enough to let me know if they have a website? or
a fax number?
I apologize for being off topic on this.
Thanks,
Jai
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| Message 10
Subject: Tilapia in the Buffalo, NY area?
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 22:11:41 -0600
Anyone in the Buffalo, NY area have around 250 fry/fingerlings available?
Please let me know at if you do.
Thanks,
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
| Message 11
Subject: Re: seeds
From: JohnEBook 'at' aol.com
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:36:15 EST
I have used Johnny's as a seed source for a commercial greenhouse. Very
professional and high quality.
John
| Message 12
Subject: Plastic lumber?
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 22:49:01 -0600
At 06:16 PM 03/04/2001 -0800, Jai wrote:
> A few months ago someone on this list
>mentioned using plastic sheets, similiar and about the
>same thinkness as plywood, very durable I understand
>it comes in sheets like regular plywood in various
>thickneses, and lasts indefinitely. etc.
> They were made by a company called Braun
>Industries, I don't remember who mentioned this
>neither have I been able to find the company.
> If there is anyone that does business
>with this company or has in the past, would you be
>kind enough to let me know if they have a website? or
>a fax number?
Jai - I couldn't find any reference to the plastic sheets, at least in my
first search. Sometimes when we wander from the stated "subject line" into
other areas, it's hard to track those bits and pieces.
I did find several references to plastic lumber, which I'll summarize here.
Perhaps one of them will lead you to this material, or someone will remember
posting.
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>From: "Loren"
>Subject: RE: Plastic lumber
>Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 12:11:17 -0500
>
>Scott,
> I've used the plastic 2x6s for decking and it works wonderfully. Have seen
>it used in a city park in Denton Texas and out in the weather for years and
>no degradation. Not real sure about the strength versus steel, that would
>have some qualifiers.
>Loren
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 11:46 AM
>To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
>Subject: Plastic lumber (was: VersaTube for Aquaponics Structures?)
>
>Melvin Landers wrote
>
>:... I don't know if webwill use this or not though as the manufacturing
>guys
>are telling me that
>the newest plastic lumber products are better and lower in price while
>offering the same strength and rigidity as steel......
>
>Hi all,
>
>Does anyone have any links/experiences for the plastic lumber industry?
>Plastic
>lumber sure could save some "rotting" experiences compared to "real" lumber.
>
>Scott Jones
>Hydro/Aquatic Tech
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>Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 12:48:14 -0400
>From: Adriana Gutierrez & Dennis LaGatta
>Subject: Re: Plastic lumber
>
>One brand name I'm familiar with is called TREX. I looked into it a few
>years back and it was much more expensive than lumber.
>> I've used the plastic 2x6s for decking and it works wonderfully.
Have seen
>> it used in a city park in Denton Texas and out in the weather for years and
>> no degradation. Not real sure about the strength versus steel, that would
>> have some qualifiers.
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>From: "TGTX"
>Subject: Re: Plastic lumber
>Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 16:32:48 -0500
>
>Here are some resources:
>
>A.E.R.T.
>HC10, Box 16
>Junction, TX 76849
>(915) 446-3430
>ChoiceDek - recycled Texas cedar and plastic composite lumber
>Texas Redwood Lumber Co.
>(512) 385-5334
>
>NexWood
>NexWood composite lumber from waste wood and recycled plastic- structural
>shape for strength, can go on 24" centers for tear out decks. Austin
>Wholesale Decking: 512-834-1200.
>
>SmartDeck
>2600 W. Roosevelt Rd.
>Chicago, IL 60608
>(888) 7DECKING
> http://www.smartdeck.com
>SmartDeck is a system of caps, posts, deckboards, rails and stiles all of
>which are made of composite lumber. Available in 2 grades, weathers to
>gray. Capitol Lumber (806-747-3191)
>
>TimberTech
>(800) 307-7780
>Austin Fence&Deck
>(512)-258-5000
>
>Trex Co., LLC
>20 S. Cameron St.
>Winchester, VA 22601
>(800) BUY TREX
>Trex composite lumber from waste wood and recycled plastic, can be painted,
>stained, or left "raw".
>
>TriMax Lumber
>Plastic Lumber of Texas, Dennis Gann
>2401 Fountainview, Suite 314
>Houston, TX 77057
>(713) 977-0423
>Structurally reinforced plastic lumber
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From: Borva 'at' aol.com
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 09:05:13 EDT
Subject: RE: Plastic lumber
Plastic lumber!!!!!!! I just completed a 20' x 12' boat dock using TREX
5/4"x6" decking board. Great stuff to work with but it weighs about twice as
much as freshly treated pressure treated board. The material is not good for
structural components and they say so.
http://www.trex.com/TREX_SITE_1998/TrexECDPage.htm .
The material is great to work with. It has the same dimensions as the
pressure treated wood material it is manufactured to replace. It tends to
take on the shape of the surface its setting on, however. I paid $1.40 US
per foot for 16 ft lengths (my contractor price). A comparable pressure
treated board costs $.70 and premium board (kiln dry) about $ 1.00 , (my
prices in this area of Virginia) . I highly recommend it to anyone building
a deck, dock or patio. I am checking into its use as an interface between
greenhouse poly and a steel rebar bow. I've found that it machines very
well(cuts). I saved a few pieces from the dock job and am experimenting with
deferent "grove cuts" into which I insert poly tubing to fasten the
greenhouse poly. There are a few other manufacturers of this type of
material.
Ed
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Hope this helps,
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
| Message 13
Subject: Re: Building plywood/FRP raceways and tanks
From: "JAlan Aufderheide"
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:55:26 -0000
Brian - or anyone else -
What about building the plywood box with a sand floor and then just laying
in "pond liner"? I'm not sure of the correct name or trade name, but it is
sold in larger greenhouse outlets and in various widths you can "buy by the
foot" Any thoughts?
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Gracia
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: Building plywood/FRP raceways and tanks
> I work all day with polyester and acrylic modified polyester resins. Many
> professional people have told me that these are not good for use in
> aquaculture or water applications (even thought they are used for boats)
> for that matter. I make cultured marble vanity tops and solid surface
> kitchen counter tops. Polyester works good, don't get me wrong, but I
have
> seen water slowly penetrate through it. You must use an epoxy resin. I
am
> currently thinking of doing the same thing. I am looking at building a
> tank structure out of 1 1/2" angle iron and using 3/4" plywood coated
> epoxy in and out. To give even better seam strength, I am going to use a
> cloth tape and filet all corners with epoxy based putty.
>
> Brian
>
> At 01:47 PM 3/4/2001, you wrote:
> >Anyone out there with experience in building tanks or raceways with
plywood,
> >fiberglass cloth and polyester resin? ... Other DIY ideas? I am leaning
> >toward
> >commercially available poly tanks, but this low cost, easily customizable
> >alternative interest me.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Darren
> >
>
>
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