Aquaponics Digest - Thu 03/15/01



Message   1: Re: Cold Water Herbivores....
             from "F.Carl Uhland" 

Message   2: Aquaponics Short Course at UVI
             from Donald Bailey 

Message   3: Re: Aquaponics Short Course at UVI
             from "STEVE SPRING" 

Message   4: AD   -    Ozone Generator
             from ejohnson 'at' graham.main.nc.us (Eugenia L. Johnson)

Message   5: Re: Cold Water Herbivores....
             from John 

Message   6: Possible troulble on the list
             from fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)

Message   7: Re: Possible troulble on the list
             from S & S Aqua Farm 

Message   8: Re: Possible troulble on the list
             from amackay 

Message   9: Fwd. New course offering "Profitable Use of Aquaculture
  By-Products"--May 8-11, 2001
             from S & S Aqua Farm 



| Message 1  

Subject: Re: Cold Water Herbivores....
From:    "F.Carl Uhland" 
Date:    Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:12:10 -0500

Carp are popular along the large midwestern rivers (Illinois, Mississippi=20
etc.).  They process the filets in a machine that consists of numerous=20
knife blades about a quarter inch a part.  The "scored" carp is deep fried,=
=20
and is delicious.  The scoring technique takes care of the many Y bones=20
that had been mentionned before.  They are cut so small, that you don't=20
notice them when you eat the filet.

Carl

as well.At 10:41 10-03-01 -0600, you wrote:
>Steve
>     To cook a carp as i first found out from Euell Gibbons  in 1963
>method is every thing. The main reason most folks didn't like them was
>all of the small Y bones .
>First skin the fish, then taking a large pinch,where the meat is the
>thickest,work your fingers and thumb into the flesh until you hit the
>median bones,then work your fingers and thumb together and rip off a
>handful of meat Useing this method ,you will get 2 or 3 good sized
>chunks of flesh from each side of the fish. Then heat a pot of vegetable
>shortening ,rub the pieces of fish with salt and drop them into the hot
>fat.Cook to a golden brown , Great top noch eating
>
>Also they are very good smoked in the spring you just fillet them,brine
>for a few days and place them on your smoking racks just like my Salmon.
>
>Also you can cut the fillets into 1inch by 1/2inch pieces and pickle
>them up in any pickling recipe and they are just like pickeled Herring
>.I've don this allot with both Carp,  Red horse suckers and small pan
>fish in my wild food classes in the past and they are very Very good.The
>bones just desolve sort of like when you would can them. Oh you can can
>them to they tast like canned  red Salmon .
>      I think any Euopean cook book will be full of Carp recipes .Over
>there Carp are cooked as a Christmass supper main course
>              Bruce

F. Carl Uhland, DVM
Facult=E9 M=E9decine V=E9t=E9rinaire
University of Montreal
3200 rue Sicotte
Saint-Hyacinthe (Qu=E9bec) J2S 7C6
T=E9l: 450-773-8521; ext: 8317
Fax: 450-778-8116
Carl.F.Uhland 'at' umontreal.ca




| Message 2  

Subject: Aquaponics Short Course at UVI
From:    Donald Bailey 
Date:    Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:24:56 -0400

The third annual Aquaponics and Tilapia Aquaculture Short Course is
scheduled for June 24-30.   UVI has been a leader in aquaponics research
for 20 years and has a commercial scale system that produces 11,000 lbs
(5 metric tons) of tilapia and 1560 cases (30/week) of lettuce
annually.  Other production systems are also covered in the class.

The full course announcement is at
http://rps.uvi.edu/AES/Aquaculture/UVIShortCourse.html.  

The class is a 7-day course that will provide in-depth knowledge of the
principles and practical application of the aquaponic and
greenwater tank culture systems that have been developed at the
University of the Virgin Islands. Participants will be introduced
to a variety of system designs that maintain water quality by various
solids removal techniques and by hydroponic plant culture
(aquaponics), a suspended growth process (greenwater tank culture) or
fixed-film nitrification. Fish production instruction will
be conducted using both the Nile tilapia (Oreochromis niloticus) and red
tilapia. Hydroponic plant production will focus on
lettuce, but will also cover many other vegetables as well as culinary
and medicinal herbs and ornamental flowers. 

How to meet your here.

-- 
Donald S. Bailey
University of the Virgin Islands
Agriculture Experiment Station
Aquaculture Program
340-692-4038 - phone
340-692-4035 - fax
Visit our site at http://rps.uvi.edu/



| Message 3  

Subject: Re: Aquaponics Short Course at UVI
From:    "STEVE SPRING" 
Date:    Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:47:28 -0600

Hi Donald,

There are still several people who would be interested in a winter course. I
am still in the background as requested. I believe that there is a market
for a winter course at UVI . Hey, don't you people still snorkel in
February?

I'm sure Dr. J. remembers how bad we want to get out in Feb., Mar., ?? Dr.
J. said that he didn't think that I could get 5 people. Trust me. I have had
much more than that contact me.

Just something to think about.

I would love to attend the course, but I just can't in the summertime.

Sorry if I am a P.I.A. I just am.

Take care......Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Bailey" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 10:24 AM
Subject: Aquaponics Short Course at UVI


The third annual Aquaponics and Tilapia Aquaculture Short Course is
scheduled for June 24-30.   UVI has been a leader in aquaponics research
for 20 years and has a commercial scale system that produces 11,000 lbs
(5 metric tons) of tilapia and 1560 cases (30/week) of lettuce
annually.  Other production systems are also covered in the class.

The full course announcement is at
http://rps.uvi.edu/AES/Aquaculture/UVIShortCourse.html.

The class is a 7-day course that will provide in-depth knowledge of the
principles and practical application of the aquaponic and
greenwater tank culture systems that have been developed at the
University of the Virgin Islands. Participants will be introduced
to a variety of system designs that maintain water quality by various
solids removal techniques and by hydroponic plant culture
(aquaponics), a suspended growth process (greenwater tank culture) or
fixed-film nitrification. Fish production instruction will
be conducted using both the Nile tilapia (Oreochromis niloticus) and red
tilapia. Hydroponic plant production will focus on
lettuce, but will also cover many other vegetables as well as culinary
and medicinal herbs and ornamental flowers.

How to meet your here.

--
Donald S. Bailey
University of the Virgin Islands
Agriculture Experiment Station
Aquaculture Program
340-692-4038 - phone
340-692-4035 - fax
Visit our site at http://rps.uvi.edu/





| Message 4  

Subject: AD   -    Ozone Generator
From:    ejohnson 'at' graham.main.nc.us (Eugenia L. Johnson)
Date:    Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:10:07 -0400


 I understand that this is AD Day.

For Sale:

OZONE GENERATOR, OxyTech 8amp corona discharge.Produces up
to 80gr./hour. Used part time from 1995 to 1998. One year satisfaction
guarantee -  $3,200. Comparable new value:  $12,500 .  Call 828-479-
6294 (in North Carolina).

Besr Wishes to a Great Group,
Charlie Johnson





| Message 5  

Subject: Re: Cold Water Herbivores....
From:    John 
Date:    Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:07:38 -0600

A friend and I camped out at lake Ft. Gibson in NE Oklahoma one summer.
Thinking we would catch all the crappie we could eat, we neglected to bring
much food or cash.  We wound up with a single 1/2 lb crappie one night, and
a 10 pound carp I caught on a length of kite string with an earthworm
attached via hook.  Knocked Mr. Carp on the head with a stick, filetted and
fried him in butter.  He was one of the tastiest critters I've ever eaten.
Didn't notice many Y bones, but we were pretty hungry at the time.



Carp are popular along the large midwestern rivers (Illinois, Mississippi
etc.).  They process the filets in a machine that consists of numerous
knife blades about a quarter inch a part.  The "scored" carp is deep fried,
and is delicious.  The scoring technique takes care of the many Y bones
that had been mentionned before.  They are cut so small, that you don't
notice them when you eat the filet.





| Message 6  

Subject: Possible troulble on the list
From:    fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
Date:    Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:48:48 -0600 (CST)

Watch  out VIRUS alert       DO NOT OPEN     
( HaHaHa snowwhite 'at' sexyfun.net) 
   My system cant catch it but yours can
Bruce




| Message 7  

Subject: Re: Possible troulble on the list
From:    S & S Aqua Farm 
Date:    Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:50:31 -0600

At 04:48 PM 03/15/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>Watch  out VIRUS alert       DO NOT OPEN     
>( HaHaHa snowwhite 'at' sexyfun.net) 
>   My system cant catch it but yours can
>Bruce

Bruce - Why is it that you think it's this list?  I'm just curious.  I show
no message through our personal mail or the mail group today that contained
that virus.  

This particular one I have received several times, never seemingly tied to
any other message, or I would be following up with the poster to clear their
system.  I really think this is a random "monster" that is thrown out to
email batches at sporatic times.  Does anyone else know the specifics on this?

Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775  417-256-5124
Web page  http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/




| Message 8  

Subject: Re: Possible troulble on the list
From:    amackay 
Date:    Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:36:53 +0000

Hi:

I think Bruce is right. This thing keeps coming in. Initially we thought it was generated
locally.
However, a short while ago, it arrived with a batch of emails from the aquaponics list only. I
just
had two from Mr.hahaha with today's mail. There were other possible sources this time, but it
might be
worth a follow up. Hope this helps. I sure would like to have it gone.

Art MacKay

S & S Aqua Farm wrote:

> At 04:48 PM 03/15/2001 -0600, you wrote:
> >Watch  out VIRUS alert       DO NOT OPEN
> >( HaHaHa snowwhite 'at' sexyfun.net)
> >   My system cant catch it but yours can
> >Bruce
>
> Bruce - Why is it that you think it's this list?  I'm just curious.  I show
> no message through our personal mail or the mail group today that contained
> that virus.
>
> This particular one I have received several times, never seemingly tied to
> any other message, or I would be following up with the poster to clear their
> system.  I really think this is a random "monster" that is thrown out to
> email batches at sporatic times.  Does anyone else know the specifics on this?
>
> Paula
> S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775  417-256-5124
> Web page  http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/




| Message 9  

Subject: Fwd. New course offering "Profitable Use of Aquaculture
  By-Products"--May 8-11, 2001
From:    S & S Aqua Farm 
Date:    Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:24:41 -0600


Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:45:40 -0500
Subject: New course offering "Profitable Use of Aquaculture
By-Products"--May 8-11, 2001
From: Myra D Colgate 

        The course,  "Profitable Use of Aquaculture Byproducts", to be given by
the non-profit organization, Aquaculture International, Inc., is slated
for, Tuesday, May 8, through Friday, May 11, 2001, at Nantahala Village
near Bryson City.  This course will focus on practical, innovative ways
in which fish farming or processing waste can be made to be profitable. 
It will include the production and use of methane to provide energy
needs, etc., the practical use of byproducts of anaerobic digestion,
various types of composting, vermicomposting, tubifex worm production,
fish soluble nutrients for organic plant production, hydrolysates for
agriculture and aquaculture use, ensilage of fish processing waste for
animal feed and higher value products for medicinal and industrial use.  
Specialists with various expertise have been selected, the class will be
informal allowing plenty of time for questions and personal attention,
even into the evenings, as most everyone should be staying in the
Village.  Friday morning is set aside for a trip to selected field sites
of interest located in this area.
        Charles Johnson, a fish specialist and founder/president of Aquaculture
International, Inc., with many years of  teaching experience, will be one
of the presenters and the facilitator.  He has also worked as a
consultant with fish growers in other countries including Canada, Sweden
and Armenia.  Other course instructors will be:  Dr. George Flick,
Extension food scientist, Dept. of Food Science and Tech., VA Tech,
Blacksburg, VA; Dr. Joe Fontenot, professor of animal science, Dept. of
Animal & Poultry Sciences, VA Tech., Blacksburg, VA; Regina Guyer, grad.
student in civil engineering, UNC-Charlotte, Charlotte, NC; Dr. Helene
Hilger, asst. professor, Dept. of Civil Engineering, UNC-Charlotte,
Charlotte, NC. 
        This could also be a great destination vacation for either or both of
the weekends of that week, as Bryson City, NC is only ten miles from the
Great Smoky Mountains National Park and Cherokee, and 50 miles from
Gatlinburg, TN.  The course is to be $125 for the three-and-a-half days
and three evenings.  
        Students, WNC residents, accompanying spouses who also take the course,
and ministry people missionaries, etc., can take the course for $50.
        To register for the course, send your name, address, name of farm or
agency, phone, FAX number, and e-mail address, along with a check or
money order to:   Aquaculture International, Inc., P.O. Box 606, Andrews,
NC  28901.  Or you can call/FAX (828) 479-6294, Charles Johnson, or email
Myra D Colgate  with any other questions.
        For accommodations, there are fully-equipped log cabins as well as
modern rooms or condos for larger groups, located in the Nantahala
Village.  The number is: 1-800-438-1507.  Ask them for the rates for the
group from Aquaculture International, Inc. with Charlie Johnson.  E-mail
is: nvinfo 'at' nvnc.com,  and website:  www.nvnc.com. 
Thank you.   







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