Aquaponics Digest - Fri 04/27/01
Message 1: Re: More On Humic Acids
from kris book
Message 2: Re: More On Humic Acids
from marc 'at' aculink.net
Message 3: Re: More On Humic Acids
from kris book
Message 4: Re: Greenhouses
from Bill Patrick
Message 5: "Modeling" Soil Microbiological Systems
from "TGTX"
Message 6: Re: "Modeling" Soil Microbiological Systems
from "TGTX"
Message 7: Re: "Modeling" Soil Microbiological Systems
from "TGTX"
Message 8: Mohapatra's Mini Greenhouses
from "Carlos Arano"
Message 9: CubicEye, a "3-D" browser
from "TGTX"
Message 10: Re: [POLY-DIG] INTRO: Jacky Foo (Sweden)
from Raul Vergueiro Martins
| Message 1
Subject: Re: More On Humic Acids
From: kris book
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:14:49 -0600
Marcy,
I live in Pueblo. Do you have an aquaponic system set up in SE Colorado?
kris book
krisbook 'at' juno.com
| Message 2
Subject: Re: More On Humic Acids
From: marc 'at' aculink.net
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 07:19:43 -0600
Hi Kris,
We're in Fowler!!!
No, we got the greenhouse put up last March and the next day
had one of our horrible winds that ripped the cover off. We
were so discouraged we haven't gotten it rebuilt and started
yet. We visited Tom and Paula's in Missouri and really want
to get it going here. How about you?
You can see pictures on our web site under aquaponics:
http://www.aculink.net/~marc/
Marcy Nameth
kris book wrote:
>
> Marcy,
>
> I live in Pueblo. Do you have an aquaponic system set up in SE Colorado?
>
> kris book
> krisbook 'at' juno.com
| Message 3
Subject: Re: More On Humic Acids
From: kris book
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:30:50 -0600
Good morning Marcy,
I work at Ryan and Betsy's Country Roots CSA farm part time. My family
was in a car wreck here in Pueblo in May of '99. My daughter and I walked
away but, my wife, Allison broke her neck. Until I find an organic
farming/greenhouse job where I can live on site, I can't devote enough
time to a job. Right now she's back in the ICU with an undiagnosed neuro
problem and I need to go visit so, I am pasting some other correspondence
that I have sent out earlier that will introduce our family a little
better and explain the current situation also. Ryan told me about you
guys but, I lost the phone # before I could call and then so much has
been happening lately.
Namaste,
kris
--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: kris book
To: lite-info 'at' litemanu.com
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:22:55 -0700
Hello,
I just bumped into to your web site, I'm not sure how. I am sending a
short bio on my organic greenhouse experience. If you know of anyone with
similar interests, please pass my address along.
Hello,
My name is Kris Book. Our family currently resides in Pueblo, Colorado.
My wife Allison and I are greatly interested in changing our focus to one
that is engulfed in community. I am a 51 year old construction worker. I
am competent in nearly every phase of the building trades. I operate
heavy equipment (backhoes, bulldozers, road graders), have a
refrigeration gas license, do plumbing and electric adequately. I speak
Spanish and have had as many as 60 workers at a time working for me. I
have many years doing building maintenance/management. I am not
necessarily looking for a paid position. A year and a half ago, my family
was in a car wreck, which left my wife Allison with a broken neck. While
she can no longer work with her hands and feet, she has a beautiful
ability to connect with and teach children. She also is a student of bio-
dynamics and can communicate with plants at over 90% accuracy. She
receives Social Security, which allows us to work for room and board. We
have decided that joining an intentional community is the best case
scenario for our family. I am impressed with your ideas and would enjoy
communicating with you.
During the 1980's and early 90's my wife and I gardened year round at
about 6,000 ft. in Central Oregon. I designed and built a greenhouse out
of PVC pipe. In the winter we added gro-lights and CO2 injection. We
learned to start plants from cuttings. We also experimented with
different compost recipes, which led us to experimenting with organic
hydroponics (bioponic) growing. We attained a great deal of satisfaction
from the knowledge that we could feed ourselves fresh organic food every
day of the year under any climate conditions. In fact, we had some of our
best crops in January when the temperature never reached above 0 for 8 or
9 days in a row. I am sure that I can double the normal production of a
commercial greenhouse, and I speculate that I can probably triple and
maybe a little more than average production with my organic hydroponics
(bioponic) system and CO2 injection. Please let me know if ya'll have in
interest in communicating with us.
I'd also be interested in talking to anyone that you know that is
planning to build similar communities, preferably some place that has
four seasons. That way, I can resume my quest to eliminate world hunger.
I believe that since most of the world's population lives in urban areas
with short growing seasons, then that's where the food should be grown. I
see no reason to pay truck drivers and brokers to bring me food that is
picked too early because the food has to travel so far. My wife and I
have 7 years experience growing organic vegetables without the sun and
using the sun in conjunction with gro-lights in the winter . We can grow
bananas in Alaska, in January. I want to create a CD that anybody,
regardless of experience, can drop in their computer and have all the
info needed to grow delicious fruits and veggies year round no matter
what the climate is. I want to see a commercial greenhouse on every
vacant lot, parking lot of every church, school, hospital, and in every
neighborhood in the world. With the right backing, organic greenhouse
farming combined with aquaculture can become a top ten franchise. Well,
I'm out of time again.
Jan,
If I'd written this response to your post last night, I would have said
that I do most things in my life in the "now", and that I'm ready to pack
up the house tomorrow. But I've just returned from 3 hrs. in the ER and I
had to leave Allison there. She had another episode exactly like the one
she had in January. She was taking a drink of water and as soon as the
straw left her lips, her eyes rolled back in her head and she stopped
breathing. This time, I was better prepared. It took me about 20 seconds
to get the ventilator hooked up, so her heart didn't stop beating. I had
her connected to a machine called a polesox (spelling?), that registers
her heart beat and how well her blood is oxygenating. I was able to watch
her heart go all the way down to 23 beats a minute. Last time this
happened, they ran every test known to man and every one was negative, so
they blamed it on a little pneumonia she had at the time. Well, this time
there is no pneumonia, so me and the home health nurse have determined
that the problem is neurological. It's not much of a diagnosis but,
that's the best I can do right now. I'll answer the other questions you
asked soon and I hope to have good news on Allison too.
kris
| Message 4
Subject: Re: Greenhouses
From: Bill Patrick
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:40:23 -0400
Great! Please let us know when they are out there.
Bill
Adriana Gutierrez wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill,
> I recalled that Carlos has a web site so he will post the graphics on
> it along with the translations with the text and a link sent to the
> group. If we run into any technical difficulties with this plan I
> will certainly let you know.
>
> Adriana
>
> > Carlos Arano wrote:
> > >
> > > Adriana:
> > > I'm sending to you, out to the list, .zip heavy copies of the
> three
> > > pages of my actual book (in progress). I feel you will be able to
> post them
> > > in English but I don't know how you will do to post the drawings I
> made for
> > > my book.
> >
> > Adriana,
> >
> > If you like you can send the completed translations and drawings to
> me
> > and I'll make a quick web page out of them when I get a chance and
> put
> > them out on my web space. Or better yet, if someone (Devon???)
> would
> > volunteer to do the html for me, I can host the pages no problem (I
> vast
> > web space available to me for essentially free). I'm just a little
> > short on time right now. This all of course depends on Carlos
> ok-ing
> > the publication of his material on the web.
> >
> > Let me know,
> > Bill
> >
> > As you can see, they are fundamentals to understand the concept.
> > > I hope you will find the way to do it.
| Message 5
Subject: "Modeling" Soil Microbiological Systems
From: "TGTX"
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:51:26 -0500
Someone of an engineering persuasion, and I think it was Bill Patrick,
wondered out loud if there was a way, or perhaps a road already taken, in
"modeling" what takes place in a given aquaponic system.
Now there is a true engineer at heart speaking. Reminds me of my youth.
Well, long ago, my interest in mathematically modeling ecosystems dwindled.
But, for those whose hearts and minds are set a fire by such notions, may I
recommend this distance learning course as one facet, one tool, by which you
may begin thinking of such models.
North Carolina State:
http://www.soil.ncsu.edu/academic/scripts/courses2.php?cnum=532
| Message 6
Subject: Re: "Modeling" Soil Microbiological Systems
From: "TGTX"
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:05:46 -0500
Here is a Soil Biology Primer
http://www.statlab.iastate.edu/survey/SQI/SoilBiology/soil_biology_primer.ht
m
----- Original Message -----
From: TGTX
To:
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 4:51 PM
Subject: "Modeling" Soil Microbiological Systems
| Message 7
Subject: Re: "Modeling" Soil Microbiological Systems
From: "TGTX"
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:20:49 -0500
Bureau of Land Management pictorial of the soil community
http://www.id.blm.gov/soils/index.html
> Here is a Soil Biology Primer
>
>
http://www.statlab.iastate.edu/survey/SQI/SoilBiology/soil_biology_primer.ht
> m
| Message 8
Subject: Mohapatra's Mini Greenhouses
From: "Carlos Arano"
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:10:15 -0300
Due to the interest of many of you in the list, Adriana is doing the
translation of my three pages on Mohapatra's MGH.
Subhas Mohapatra is an indian scientist at North Carolina State
University, Biological & Agricultural Engineering Dept.. He wrote a book
"Affordable Greenhouse Technology (A do it yourself manual)" published by
Science & Technology Application Systems, Inc. In it he explain several very
interesting devices, most of them of very low cost. I tell to all of you:
for me this book is a fountain of new ideas for people without money to
spend.
In spite of the reserved rights, I got his permission to use two or
three of his published notes in my next book but I don't know if he will
allow me to show in the web his ideas on MGH. I'm sending a copy of this
mail to him. If he is willing to give his permission, I will prepare a web
page with my three pages after Adriana makes the translation.
Mohapatra's mail is
mohapatr 'at' unity.ncsu.edu
Regards
Carlos
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Patrick
To:
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Greenhouses
>
>
> Carlos Arano wrote:
> >
> > Adriana:
> > I'm sending to you, out to the list, .zip heavy copies of the three
> > pages of my actual book (in progress). I feel you will be able to post
them
> > in English but I don't know how you will do to post the drawings I made
for
> > my book.
>
> Adriana,
>
> If you like you can send the completed translations and drawings to me
> and I'll make a quick web page out of them when I get a chance and put
> them out on my web space. Or better yet, if someone (Devon???) would
> volunteer to do the html for me, I can host the pages no problem (I vast
> web space available to me for essentially free). I'm just a little
> short on time right now. This all of course depends on Carlos ok-ing
> the publication of his material on the web.
>
> Let me know,
> Bill
>
> As you can see, they are fundamentals to understand the concept.
> > I hope you will find the way to do it.
>
| Message 9
Subject: CubicEye, a "3-D" browser
From: "TGTX"
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:49:33 -0500
Hey, this is OT big time, but I thought y'all might enjoy seeing this demo
of a "3-D" browser so that you can power surf for answers to aquaponic
research questions.
>CubicEye, a 3d browser introduced by 2ce, an innovative software
>development company..htm>>
>Now this is power-surfing! click on the cubiceye logo on the top and then
>click on the mini-screens in the right column, starting from top to bottom.
Enjoy.
Tedzo
| Message 10
Subject: Re: [POLY-DIG] INTRO: Jacky Foo (Sweden)
From: Raul Vergueiro Martins
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:59:24 +0100
Hi Kris:
May be you didn't understand my words, or may be my English is too bad (at least I believe
it is), for you to understand what I told some days ago in the Aquaponics List.
This gentleman has a name, and what this gentleman told, is that the Poliethilene
Biodigester, is mainly being used to produce gas (or biogas).
The Poliethilene Biodigester produces Biogas and Biofertilizer.
This gentleman said too, that the Poliethilene Biodigester produces a biofertilizer not
completely biodigested, and so with no good conditions to be used as a basis to prepare an
"organic" nutrient solution to be used in all hydroponic systems.
This gentleman told too, that the biodigesters he developed after his practice with the
construction of biodigesters during more than 20 years, can produce not only the biogas,
as all agricultural biodigesters do, but also a biofertilizer completely digested, in
perfect conditions to be used as a basis to the preparation of nutrient solutions to be
used in the most common hydroponic systems.
This gentleman developed too a new Organic Hydroponic Technology, similar to the Aquaponic
Technology, using animal wastes processed in a biodigester. This technologi was called
Geo-Hydroponics, because is is based in the use of tereestrial animal wastes.
For more details about this technology, this gentleman will be happy in receiving your
visit in his website at http://www.hydor.eng.br, and he invites you too. to read the last
issue of The Growing Edge.
This gentleman says that the Poliethilene Biodigester is a very simple device that should
be used around the world, to help poor people devoted to home agriculture, and it can help
those people in many aspects of their life.
This gentlemam says too, that in the same way the developers of the Poliethilene
Biodigester developed it principally to help poor people around the world, he has the same
ideas, and for that, I ask you to contact Mr. Melvin Landers at agrimel 'at' yahoo.com
May God bless you, and I'm sure He will help in the rapid recovery of yor wife. As for
me, believe, she will be in my prays.
Best regards
Raul Vergueiro Martins
rvm 'at' sti.com.br
kris book wrote:
> Dear Jackie,
>
> I want to thank you for what amounts to a scholarship on a course that
> will be important to me very soon. I promise to put this info to good
> use. I have to admit to not digesting much of the info yet because, my
> wife is in the ICU again (4times this year), with what we now is a neuro
> disorder in her brain stem. However, I am keeping up with the aquaponics
> mailing list and a few days ago a gentleman made the statement that your
> digester only makes biogas. But his design would make biogas and
> bio-fertilizer. Do you have the information to modify your system to do
> the same?
>
> Namaste,
> kris
>
>
>
>
>
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