Aquaponics Digest - Mon 05/07/01
Message 1: Re: More On Humic Acids
from "Adriana Gutierrez"
Message 2: Re: More On Humic Acids
from "Michael Kline"
Message 3: chiken manure
from pablo obiaga
Message 4: Fw: KOH
from laberge 'at' cil.qc.ca (LABERGE MARC)
Message 5: Re: More On Humic Acids
from "Jean-Paul Coopee"
Message 6: Re: More On Humic Acids
from "Michael Kline"
Message 7: Re: chiken manure
from "Adriana Gutierrez"
Message 8: Employment Announcement - St. Croix
from "Charlie Shultz"
Message 9: Re: Employment Announcement - St. Croix
from "Adriana Gutierrez"
Message 10: Re: Fw: KOH
from Peggy & Emmett
Message 11: Cash Crop
from "Frank Stancato"
Message 12: Cooling Article
from "Frank Stancato"
Message 13: Re: "a plug"
from "STEVE SPRING"
Message 14: Re: More On Humic Acids
from "STEVE SPRING"
Message 15: Re: ledlights
from Ian Franzmann
Message 16: Re: "a plug"
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 17: Admin. notes - Subject changed to Greenhouse, was Re: More On
Humic Acids
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 18: Foward - tilapia supplier sought
from S & S Aqua Farm
| Message 1
Subject: Re: More On Humic Acids
From: "Adriana Gutierrez"
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 07:15:20 -0500
Steve,
I would like to know your source.
Adriana
> Now, I'm a very, very newbie with greenhouses, but I did a lot of
research
> before I bought mine. Mine is a 12 X 20 X 9 hoop house. Total cost
with
> lumber for foundation, etc. was less than $1,000. It is,obviously,
very
> strong.
| Message 2
Subject: Re: More On Humic Acids
From: "Michael Kline"
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 10:03:23 -0500
Wow. I kept hearing about the prices for greenhouses, that's why I built =
my own. Mine is 14X12X48 and total cost for lumber, cement, PVC, poly, =
etc. was $417.27 not counting the $35.00 rental for the auger (I got tired =
of digging holes).
>>> gutierrez-lagatta 'at' home.com 5/7/01 07:15:20 AM >>>
Steve,
I would like to know your source.
Adriana
> Now, I'm a very, very newbie with greenhouses, but I did a lot of
research
> before I bought mine. Mine is a 12 X 20 X 9 hoop house. Total cost
with
> lumber for foundation, etc. was less than $1,000. It is,obviously,
very
> strong.
| Message 3
Subject: chiken manure
From: pablo obiaga
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 16:28:12 -0300
Adriana, Gordon and the rest of the crew:
Your apretiations are of major importance to me. I want to bioponic.
Tilapia is forbidden down here for the risk of vernacular spiecis
displacement. Fish industry and distribution are rather mobbed all along
the chain. National food culture is not very fish tendded. I've been
mailing Ra=FAl for some time. I'm very interested in his aproach, as well as
some native fish I'm gathering info on.
I eat what i produce so, i got worried.
I subscirbe Adriana's "thanks for the warning" but, I back here wondering
about the sources of Cu and Cd in chiken waist.
Either chiken food is contaminated (what about eggs and meat?) or chicken
have an excellent Cu and Cd natural self preseving mechanism that perhaps
we don't share when the source of boddy contamination is food.
I'd be thankfull for any further info and discusion on the subject.
BEst regards,
PABLO
Thanks for the warning Gordon,
Why does poultry litter have such a high metal content to begin with?
Does it have a therapeutic function in poultry rearing? This makes
it doubly important to monitor your sources of inputs.
> Be aware that commercial poultry litter will likely have high levels
of
> some heavy metals such as copper (as high as 500 ppm+), cadmium and
> perhaps arsenic. I'm not sure what the effects of biodigestion would
> have on these materials, but studies have shown that the composting
> process can actually make them more available for plant uptake.
Heavy
> metals are cumulative toxins which, with repeated use, can become
> problematic. I would be particularly wary of their use in
recirculating
> systems and, at the very least, monitor levels regularly.
| Message 4
Subject: Fw: KOH
From: laberge 'at' cil.qc.ca (LABERGE MARC)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:41:34 -0400
-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Laberge
To: aqua
Date: Sunday, May 06, 2001 10:13 AM
Subject: KOH
>Can anyone tell me weather or not Potassium Hydroxide ( the solution that
>increases pH ) , can be used in hydro-organic farming ?
>Marc Laberge
>Mont Tremblant
>Quebec , Canada
>
| Message 5
Subject: Re: More On Humic Acids
From: "Jean-Paul Coopee"
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:14:39 -0300
Michael
How about sharing your design ?? I'm sure we're all interested ! !
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Kline"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: More On Humic Acids
> Wow. I kept hearing about the prices for greenhouses, that's why I built
my own. Mine is 14X12X48 and total cost for lumber, cement, PVC, poly, etc.
was $417.27 not counting the $35.00 rental for the auger (I got tired of
digging holes).
>
> >>> gutierrez-lagatta 'at' home.com 5/7/01 07:15:20 AM >>>
> Steve,
>
> I would like to know your source.
>
> Adriana
>
>
> > Now, I'm a very, very newbie with greenhouses, but I did a lot of
> research
> > before I bought mine. Mine is a 12 X 20 X 9 hoop house. Total cost
> with
> > lumber for foundation, etc. was less than $1,000. It is,obviously,
> very
> > strong.
>
>
>
| Message 6
Subject: Re: More On Humic Acids
From: "Michael Kline"
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 16:39:23 -0500
I took photos from start to finish and will scan them if you like, but I =
do not have a site to post them. Any suggestions??
>>> jpcoopee 'at' viaccess.net 5/7/01 02:14:39 PM >>>
Michael
How about sharing your design ?? I'm sure we're all interested ! !
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Kline"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: More On Humic Acids
> Wow. I kept hearing about the prices for greenhouses, that's why I built
my own. Mine is 14X12X48 and total cost for lumber, cement, PVC, poly, =
etc.
was $417.27 not counting the $35.00 rental for the auger (I got tired of
digging holes).
>
> >>> gutierrez-lagatta 'at' home.com 5/7/01 07:15:20 AM >>>
> Steve,
>
> I would like to know your source.
>
> Adriana
>
>
> > Now, I'm a very, very newbie with greenhouses, but I did a lot of
> research
> > before I bought mine. Mine is a 12 X 20 X 9 hoop house. Total cost
> with
> > lumber for foundation, etc. was less than $1,000. It is,obviously,
> very
> > strong.
>
>
>
| Message 7
Subject: Re: chiken manure
From: "Adriana Gutierrez"
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:52:25 -0500
Pablo,
We have sent an inquiry on this matter to Steve Diver of ATTRA to see
if he can shed some light on this.
Adriana
Either chiken food is contaminated (what about eggs and meat?) or
chicken
have an excellent Cu and Cd natural self preseving mechanism that
perhaps
we don't share when the source of boddy contamination is food.
Thanks for the warning Gordon,
Why does poultry litter have such a high metal content to begin with?
Does it have a therapeutic function in poultry rearing? This makes
it doubly important to monitor your sources of inputs.
| Message 8
Subject: Employment Announcement - St. Croix
From: "Charlie Shultz"
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 22:05:29
Greetings from Always Sunny St. Croix,
As the subject line indicates, we have an immediate opening for a Research
Specialist II in the aquaculture program here at the University of the
Virgin Islands. Yes, this is a postion working with Dr. R.!!
This position requires at least a master's level college degree and is open
only to US citizens or those with permanent US residence status. The job
announcement and more infomation can be found at the Aquaculture Information
Center website (aquanic.org). Interested individuals should contact Dr.
Rakocy at jrakocy 'at' uvi.edu.
Best of Luck,
Charlie
| Message 9
Subject: Re: Employment Announcement - St. Croix
From: "Adriana Gutierrez"
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 17:22:01 -0500
Charlie and Jim,
Shouldn't you be auctioning that job off to the highest bidder? What
a plum job!
Adriana
(Oh, to be 20 years younger
.)
> This position requires at least a master's level college degree and
is open
> only to US citizens or those with permanent US residence status. The
job
> announcement and more infomation can be found at the Aquaculture
Information
> Center website (aquanic.org). Interested individuals should contact
Dr.
> Rakocy at jrakocy 'at' uvi.edu.
| Message 10
Subject: Re: Fw: KOH
From: Peggy & Emmett
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 19:59:10 -0400
At 04:41 PM 5/7/2001 -0400, LABERGE MARC wrote:
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Marc Laberge
>To: aqua
>Date: Sunday, May 06, 2001 10:13 AM
>Subject: KOH
>
>
>>Can anyone tell me weather or not Potassium Hydroxide ( the solution that
>>increases pH ) , can be used in hydro-organic farming ?
>>Marc Laberge
>>Mont Tremblant
>>Quebec , Canada
>>
>
Under Florida Organic Growers it is restricted. Only allowed for: For
disinfecting livestock facilities or cleaning processing plants where
adequate rinsing is provided and pH of product is not changed.
.Emmett
| Message 11
Subject: Cash Crop
From: "Frank Stancato"
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:11:40 -0700
Looking for a new cash crop? Has anyone tried growing agave plants?
Frank
Link to article about shortage of available crop.
http://www.enn.com/news/enn-stories/2001/05/05072001/tequila_43389.asp?site=
WEBRELEAF
| Message 12
Subject: Cooling Article
From: "Frank Stancato"
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:24:26 -0700
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For those who have been following the Sterling engine thread, here is an =
article discussing the use of water pumped threw pipes to condition air =
at a country club. Hook a Sterling engine to move the water and you have =
a system that could require some (a lot) sweat capital and some =
ingenuity.
http://www.enn.com/news/enn-stories/2001/05/05072001/geothermal_43413.asp=
?site=3DWEBRELEAF
Any do-it-yourselfers or engineers out there who could help people out?
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For those who have been following =
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water and=20
you have a system that could require some (a lot) sweat capital and some =
ingenuity.
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072001/geothermal_43413.asp?site=3DWEBRELEAF
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out there=20
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| Message 13
Subject: Re: "a plug"
From: "STEVE SPRING"
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:19:16 -0500
OOPS!
Sorry Paula,
I meant to send this to you personally. I didn't mean to address it to the
list. I always ask your permission before I endorse or "slam" someone.
Truly, truly sorry 'bout this.
I would still like to know if it is o.k. if I tell the story of what this
gentleman and his company did for me
Again, truly sorry, this was a Genuine Mistake.
Yours truly
.Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "STEVE SPRING"
To:
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 9:10 PM
Subject: "a plug"
Hi Paula,
Would you mind if I put in a kind word for Mr. Douglas Drenner 'at' Aqua Sales?
This gentleman was so very kind in helping me with a heater. The heater went
bad and he & his staff were so incredibly helpful. His correspondence was
incredible and I was never "left in the dark" as to what was going on. I
would like, VERY MUCH, to recommend him to aquaponics list subscribers.
Also the company who made the heater, I believe it is CLEPCO. (I will find
out for sure.) They were very, very helpful. They not only replaced the
defective part, they replaced and updated the entire heater. Didn't cost me
a dime. Wonderful People.
Thanks
Steve
| Message 14
Subject: Re: More On Humic Acids
From: "STEVE SPRING"
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:41:10 -0500
Hi Adriana, Carol & Michael,
I am, by no stretch of the imagination, saying that my greenhouse is the
"way to go", but I am very, very pleased with it. I'm also pleased with the
customer support of the company.
Before I forget, the address of the company is: dgiworld 'at' transport.com One
person that you can talk to is Wendy Smith. Their ph. # is 800-955-2879.
Regrettably, they don't have a website that shows their product, but if you
call and ask, they will send you "tons" of information by "snail mail".
The only problem that I have found with their product is that the zipper on
the front door is not very good. (In DGI's defense, they offered to replace
the front panel. Since I am going to replace the entire entrance with a
reguar door, I did not take them up on their offer.)
I mentioned that the price for the entire unit was less than
$1,000
.including hardware, foundation, etc. You may be able to decrease
this price if you can get your local hardware store to import the unit with
the greenhouse covering instead of the storage shed covering. Just talk to
the people at DGI. They are very, very helpful.
I'm going to cc this letter to DGI so they will know what to expect if any
of you contact them. I receive no renumeration, free stuff or whatever from
DGI. I simply do this because I am very, very pleased with their product.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adriana Gutierrez"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: More On Humic Acids
Steve,
I would like to know your source.
Adriana
> Now, I'm a very, very newbie with greenhouses, but I did a lot of
research
> before I bought mine. Mine is a 12 X 20 X 9 hoop house. Total cost
with
> lumber for foundation, etc. was less than $1,000. It is,obviously,
very
> strong.
| Message 15
Subject: Re: ledlights
From: Ian Franzmann
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 11:52:34 +1000
More Led Lighting info here
http://www.theledlight.com
http://www.otherpower.com/otherpower_lighting_leds.html
Regards
Ian
| Message 16
Subject: Re: "a plug"
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 20:59:36 -0500
At 08:19 PM 05/07/2001 -0500, Steve wrote:
>OOPS!
>
>Sorry Paula,
>
>I meant to send this to you personally. I didn't mean to address it to the
>list. I always ask your permission before I endorse or "slam" someone.
>Truly, truly sorry 'bout this.
Steve - I don't think any of us object to positive testimonials, especially
on equipment that may have applications to other list members. So if you
have had a good experience with a supplier, we'd like to hear about it.
As I've said to you before, though, I think it's best to err on the side of
caution when you have had a negative experience with a company or product.
If it pertains to a current discussion and you have some negatives to
report, I think a general statement to that effect with a request to take
the conversations off-list if anyone's interested is a more appropriate way
to go. There is a very fine line between negative comments and what can be
construed as slander -- I think it's best left to private email. Keep in
mind that even though our archives are not current, much of what is
discussed here is reposted in various other places on the internet. Hate
to see you get tied up in a lawsuit and have to abandon your project :>)
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
| Message 17
Subject: Admin. notes - Subject changed to Greenhouse, was Re: More On
Humic Acids
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 21:01:59 -0500
At 08:41 PM 05/07/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Adriana, Carol & Michael,
>
>I am, by no stretch of the imagination, saying that my greenhouse is the
>"way to go", but I am very, very pleased with it. I'm also pleased with the
>customer support of the company.
>
>Before I forget, the address of the company is: dgiworld 'at' transport.com One
>person that you can talk to is Wendy Smith. Their ph. # is 800-955-2879.
>Regrettably, they don't have a website that shows their product, but if you
>call and ask, they will send you "tons" of information by "snail mail".
>
Note to all -- please take the time to adjust your subject lines when you
change the topic -- it's really hard to keep track of, and I'm sure some
people are deleting without reading just because they are unaware of the
content.
Thanks,
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
| Message 18
Subject: Foward - tilapia supplier sought
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 21:23:47 -0500
Forwarded without comment -- if you wish to follow-up, please post to
Coquilito 'at' aol.com.
>From: Coquilito 'at' aol.com
>Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 21:34:54 EDT
>Subject: (no subject)
>To: snsaquasys 'at' townsqr.com
>
>gentlemen:
>
>we are distributors and exporters of fish and we are currently looking for
>domestic suppliers of tilapia, a specie that we would like to dedicate
>ourselves exclusively.
>
>should you be interested in a commercial relationship, please contact us.
>
>sincerely, joseph rabinovich
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