Aquaponics Digest - Fri 05/18/01
Message 1: Re: Tilapia growth
from marc 'at' aculink.net
Message 2: Re: Magazines and other recommended references:
from "STEVE SPRING"
Message 3: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Wed 05/16/01
from "Mary Whitney"
Message 4: RE: Magazines and other recommended references:
from "Carlos Arano"
Message 5: Re:Taylor waterstove Information
from REMARCINC 'at' aol.com
Message 6: Waste oil heater
from "Jay Myers"
Message 7: Fwd. - farm for sale
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 8: Fwd. Re: fire ant control
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 9: Re: Tilapia growth
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 10: Re: Tropical fish price n growth
from fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
Message 11: Re: Waste oil heater
from "KenHale"
Message 12: RE: the Whole Health Inspection Thing
from "Charlie Shultz"
Message 13: Re: Tropical fish price n growth
from "bennett"
| Message 1
Subject: Re: Tilapia growth
From: marc 'at' aculink.net
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:15:50 -0600
Try Pirahna.
STEVE SPRING wrote:
> .>
> GOD, I'm about to run out of patience with these damned Tilapia
.these are
> the nastiest fish I have ever seen.
>
> I'm still looking forward to getting those in the cages out of the pond in a
> couple of weeks. That will be the deciding factor in my Tilapia farming.
>
> But Devon, sincerely, good luck
.Take care Pal
.Steve
>
> ----- Original
| Message 2
Subject: Re: Magazines and other recommended references:
From: "STEVE SPRING"
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 00:15:41 -0500
Hi Donna,
I see the price is $42/yr for 6 issues. Do you subscribe to the Aquaponics
Journal? It is about the same price.
Who says Education is cheap. If PH&G is everything Adrianna says it is, I
would believe that it is well worth the price. I subscribe to the
"Aquaponics Journal" and I believe it is a steal for the quality of articles
that are in it. I really don't know anything about PH&G, but I plan to
subscribe to it. HEY! It is a tax write-off. I also subscribe to Jerry
Baker's home gardening magazine. It cost $30+/yr. It is well worth it.
WE ARE LITERALLY TALKING PEANUTS HERE! One bag of fish food cost me $16/$17.
If I can learn something from a magazine, it is certainly worth $42. Just my
opinion. Besides that, I don't think Adrianna is a stupid lady. If she says
it is worth it, I'm sure it is
.Just my opinion.
Take care
.spend the money
you only live once.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "bennett"
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: Magazines and other recommended references:
>Practical Hydroponics and Greenhouses:
Wow! This magazine is expensive! Is it a big thick magazine? Is the
technical advise geared to non-pros and pros as well? Tell me more about
the magazine itself please.
Donna
| Message 3
Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Wed 05/16/01
From: "Mary Whitney"
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:06:24 -0700
"or would you operate it to meet a baseline load and use some other automated heater to provide
heat during peak loading hours, such as before dawn when we are all sound asleep.
Well, that's not a bad idea. I hadn't thought of doing that. I could probably do peak
supplemental heating with not very much expense -- and sleep better."
We did this
had a woodstove that we stoked up before bedtime and if it burned down in the
night we still had our propane heater as a back up. Worked fairly well. Hubby also tried his
hand at a waste oil heater. He has the main idea
but it smoked terribly. Hoping to perfect a
design (home built of course
out of scraps preferred always =:> ) before this winter comes.a loooong ways away I hope!
Mary Whitney
--
www.whitneysorchard.com
Growing the best fruit, and vegetables. See us at the Woodinville Farmers Market
Home of quality French Lops, Mini Lops, Havanas and red Mini Rex
--
| Message 4
Subject: RE: Magazines and other recommended references:
From: "Carlos Arano"
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:20:21 -0300
Donna:
It is a great magazine. You should see it.
Carlos
----- Original Message -----
From: bennett
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Magazines and other recommended references:
> >Practical Hydroponics and Greenhouses:
>
>
> Wow! This magazine is expensive! Is it a big thick magazine? Is the
> technical advise geared to non-pros and pros as well? Tell me more about
> the magazine itself please.
> Donna
>
>
| Message 5
Subject: Re:Taylor waterstove Information
From: REMARCINC 'at' aol.com
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:46:03 EDT
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If anyone is interested in Taylors, email me privately as the main company
does not give the best deals. There are regional dealers who are great. I
need to know what part of the country you are in to get you to the best
person.
Thanks
Kricket Smith-Gary
remarc inc.
remarcable country enterprises
1692 Waddy Road
Lawrenceburg, Ky 40342
502-839-4425
502-839-9655 fax
remarcinc 'at' aol.COM
http://www.remarcinc.com
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If
anyone is interested in Taylors, email me privately as the main company
does not give the best deals. There are regional dealers who are great. I
need to know what part of the country you are in to get you to the best
person.
Thanks
Kricket
Smith-Gary
remarc inc.
remarcable country enterprises
1692 Waddy Road
Lawrenceburg, Ky 40342
502-839-4425
502-839-9655 fax
remarcinc 'at' aol.COM
http://www.remarcinc.com
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| Message 6
Subject: Waste oil heater
From: "Jay Myers"
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:11:02 -0500
Mary Whitney wrote:
>Hubby also tried his hand at a waste oil heater. He has the main idea
but
it smoked terribly. Hoping to perfect a design (home built of course
out
of scraps preferred always <
I'd like to meet him - my kind of guy !
I saw a waste oil heater at a Boise Farm Show a few years ago in November.
For this Florida boy it was cold there, and they had this thing running
outside. Must have been 20 people standing around it keeping warm, and it
didn't smoke at all. It was a beautiful thing! You get 140,000 btu's /
gal. of oil. EPA has some rules about them, but not hard to live with.
I'm relocating from Florida to near Boise, and I'm going to need a lot of
heat. There is a company that sells them whole or in kit form in Washington
state, but I am a do-it-yourselfer too, so
I'll find the url for you.
There are ideas to be had anyway.
Jay
| Message 7
Subject: Fwd. - farm for sale
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:42:12 -0500
Posted for our friend John Greer (whose handsome face is featured on page 37
of the current (May/June 2001) issue of The Growing Edge. Before he was a
tomato guru, he set up an aquaponics system at the tech school in Mountain
Grove, MO.
Anyone who's interested in the farm/business should contact him directly.
Paula
---------------
I have a commercial hydroponic tomato operation for sale.
I am wanting to sell my farm because I need to move closer to where my kids
are going to
be attending school. The greenhouse is a Crop King hydroponic house (88x128')
with some modifications. It holds 2880 tomato plants and they are
currently in peak production. The market is open and very good, just
landed another market place that has the ability to take 100 times more
tomatoes than I will ever be able to produce. All of the markets/stores
and inventory goes with the sale. The land is 20 acres of pasture/grass
land about 35 miles north of Springfield, MO. The house is a 5 year old,
no/low maintenance 4 bedroom, 3 bath, ranch style home with
landscaping.
We are asking $350,000 turn-key.
feel free to contact me if you have any questions.
Thanks
John Greer
Goodson Hydroponics
417- 253-2800
hydroponics 'at' microcore.net
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| Message 8
Subject: Fwd. Re: fire ant control
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:19:50 -0500
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:06:04 -0600
>Sender: Sustainable Agriculture Network Discussion Group
>
>From: Steve Diver
>Subject: Re: fire ant control
>To: SANET-MG 'at' LISTS.IFAS.UFL.EDU
>
>> I would like to hear your experiences with organic control of the red
>> imported fire ant. I am hoping that some of you can provide information
>> on the efficacy of various control strategies that do not rely on
>> synthetic pesticides.
>>
>> Debbie Roos, Agricultural Extension Agent
>> North Carolina State University
>
>Hi Debbie,
>
>ATTRA has just completed a 2001 update to its "Fire Ant
>Management" publication. The print version is currently being
>formatted, and following that it will also be available on the web in
>PDF and HTML. I expect the print and PDF versions will be
>available in a couple weeks; HTML will come later.
>
>In the meantime, the 1999 edition can be viewed online:
>
>Fire Ant Management
>http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/fireant.html
>
>The 2001 update will have the same HTML web address. If you watch
>the Pest Management Series web page, you can also click on the PDF
>version.
>
>Pest Management Series, ATTRA web page
>http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/pest.html
>
>Yes there are some new products as well as management options.
>
>Steve Diver
>ATTRA
>
| Message 9
Subject: Re: Tilapia growth
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:35:09 -0500
At 11:34 PM 05/17/2001 -0500, Steve wrote:
>I've just come back from "in the back" and did another major water dump. I
>built another filter (actually a Bruce Schreiber design)
.a bedsheet strung
>between 2 2x4's and a pump discharging into them
not to mention the
>"butterfly" net that I have set up to catch the little turds
.fecal matter
>as it was eloquently put.
>
>GOD, I'm about to run out of patience with these damned Tilapia
.these are
>the nastiest fish I have ever seen.
>
>I'm still looking forward to getting those in the cages out of the pond in a
>couple of weeks. That will be the deciding factor in my Tilapia farming.
Steve - do you have current pictures of your set-up anywhere? If not, could
you briefly describe how you have things set-up at this point?
Just doesn't seem that you should be having so much trouble raising tilapia
that taste good.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
| Message 10
Subject: Re: Tropical fish price n growth
From: fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:11:36 -0500 (CDT)
Steve you should be able to get $3 to $4 each for the lemon yellows at
3 months old and $12 to $20 each for the Hap Alis at about 6 months old
when the males come into color . Now keep in mind that with the capacity
that you will have for grow out you will flood the local market so you
will need to sell over the internet like on the web sites that I sent
you in the past How is the sheet sack hammock rig working for you?
Don't forget to visit with the folks that I introduced you to at the
fish auction you'll be surprised at how fast you will pick up on good
local how to info from them hell Ray n Naomi Gettler live just 2 miles
from you on the other side of 43 in Mugwonago here is their telephone
number 662-5591
if you need any others let me know
Bruce
| Message 11
Subject: Re: Waste oil heater
From: "KenHale"
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:20:25 -0500
please post it for all of us. Thanks Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Myers"
To:
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:11 AM
Subject: Waste oil heater
> Mary Whitney wrote:
> >Hubby also tried his hand at a waste oil heater. He has the main
idea
but
> it smoked terribly. Hoping to perfect a design (home built of course
out
> of scraps preferred always <
>
> I'd like to meet him - my kind of guy !
>
> I saw a waste oil heater at a Boise Farm Show a few years ago in November.
> For this Florida boy it was cold there, and they had this thing running
> outside. Must have been 20 people standing around it keeping warm, and it
> didn't smoke at all. It was a beautiful thing! You get 140,000 btu's /
> gal. of oil. EPA has some rules about them, but not hard to live with.
>
> I'm relocating from Florida to near Boise, and I'm going to need a lot of
> heat. There is a company that sells them whole or in kit form in
Washington
> state, but I am a do-it-yourselfer too, so
I'll find the url for
you.
> There are ideas to be had anyway.
>
> Jay
>
>
| Message 12
Subject: RE: the Whole Health Inspection Thing
From: "Charlie Shultz"
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:20:53
Devon,
You may take a closer look at your state regulations before you fear the
"whole health inspection thing". You may be able to avoid inspections
completely if you sell live fish or whole fish one ice. Usually, it's once
you touch the product with a knife that you begin dealing with health
inspections. I forget where you are located, but amybe soneone on the list
from your state can provide answers???
Charlie
St. Croix, USVI
Original Message:
>From: "Devon Williams"
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:27:34 -0400
Hope the ornamentals thing works for you
.I wouldn't mind
>getting into that since I will not be selling my tilapia for food (I didn't
>want to get into the whole health inspection thing). Looks like I will
>probably be eating most of what I harvest from my system.>
>Devon
| Message 13
Subject: Re: Tropical fish price n growth
From: "bennett"
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 23:06:35 -0400
> Don't forget to visit with the folks that I introduced you to at the
>fish auction you'll be surprised at how fast you will pick up on good
FISH AUCTION ???? ! Please tell me more! Where? When? What all kinds of
fish?
Donna
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