Aquaponics Digest - Tue 06/19/01
Message 1: Re: Tomato
from "STEVE SPRING"
Message 2: Re: Tomato
from "STEVE SPRING"
Message 3: Re: Plain Text/HTML - Re: "Cubic" watermelons
from "gutierrez-lagatta"
Message 4: Re: Bookmarks Site soon?
from "gutierrez-lagatta"
Message 5: Re: How many tons of pea gravel per cubic yard?
from "gutierrez-lagatta"
Message 6: Perlite vs. pea gravel
from "gutierrez-lagatta"
Message 7: Ceramic Foam
from "Stan Clayton"
Message 8: Re: Hotmail accounts - settings
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 9: RE: Perlite vs. pea gravel
from "billevans"
Message 10: Flow rate through biofilter
from Carolyn Hoagland
Message 11: alternatives to pea gravel
from Carolyn Hoagland
Message 12: RE: alternatives to pea gravel
from "billevans"
Message 13: Re: Flow rate through biofilter
from "TGTX"
Message 14: Re: Perlite vs. pea gravel
from LC543119 'at' aol.com
Message 15: Re: Bookmarks Site soon?
from dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Message 16: Re: Tomato
from "Steven Medlock"
Message 17: Re: Basil
from "William Brown"
Message 18: RE: Tomatoes
from "Charlie Shultz"
Message 19: Re: Tomatoes
from "TGTX"
Message 20: Re: Bookmarks Site soon?
from "Chris G"
Message 21: Re: Bookmarks Site soon?
from "Ada Erickson"
Message 22: Fw: Tomatoes
from "TGTX"
Message 23: We promise not to eat you
. or
. How to unstress fish
from Corey Cassel
Message 24: Re: Perlite vs. pea gravel
from kris book
Message 25: bumble bee's
from "Steven Medlock"
Message 26: Re: bumble bee's
from "Jay Myers"
Message 27: Re: Bookmarks posted. from Bill Patrick
| Message 1
Subject: Re: Tomato
From: "STEVE SPRING"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 02:03:36 -0500
Hi "Red",
This is "socially insensitive" Steve. Got your problem covered in SPADES.
Got to wait a minute. Got to go upstairs and get my catalogue.
No, I don't. My weak memory is coming back. www.hydrogardens.com
Contact these people and they will send you a deluxe catalogue. In this
catalogue, you will find a tomato pollinator. It is a very simple device.
You just put a "AA" battery (I think) in it and it works like a charm. I use
this myself. I want to say it is $14.95.
Everybody around here picks on me when I say, "I'm going to go vibrate my
tomatoes." But, I'm the only one around here with tomatoes
.so guess who
gets the last laugh.
I have ordered several things from these people and they are very reputable.
As a matter of fact, they are one of Gordon's favorites.
Best of luck. Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Medlock"
To:
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:38 PM
Subject: Tomato
Any one know how to shake these tomato plants so they will pollinate? I was
told to use an electric toothbrush. but they all spin at the top. Know Idea
how to set it up or have any ideas on how to shake them. I set up some fans
tonight blowing on the plants and lines holding them up. Got to be a easy
way I am not thinking of.
Steve(red)
| Message 2
Subject: Re: Tomato
From: "STEVE SPRING"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 02:05:42 -0500
By the way, I'm very glad to be able to contribute something that will help
you out.
Later
.(See you in North Carolina)
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Medlock"
To:
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:38 PM
Subject: Tomato
Any one know how to shake these tomato plants so they will pollinate? I was
told to use an electric toothbrush. but they all spin at the top. Know Idea
how to set it up or have any ideas on how to shake them. I set up some fans
tonight blowing on the plants and lines holding them up. Got to be a easy
way I am not thinking of.
Steve(red)
| Message 3
Subject: Re: Plain Text/HTML - Re: "Cubic" watermelons
From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:29:14 -0500
Oops! Sorry, gremlins must have changed my settings.
Adriana
> As a reminder (to everyone), please be sure you are sending mail to
the list
> in "plain text" mode. Even efficient email snipping and replying
gets
> cumbersome when sent in HTML mode.
| Message 4
Subject: Re: Bookmarks Site soon?
From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:38:11 -0500
Mike,
Please let us know where we can see your fianl master bookmark list
so we can presort anything you send us. After all we each have our
own filing systme and this is probably more refined that our
individual lists. For example, omebody might have solar pumps under
"equipment" because their system doesn't have a "solar" category, but
your list does.
> Im plodding along
with the bookmarks
.and have gotten a great
program
> for sorting them. Last night I sorted my bookmarks at the click of a
> button, all 3000 of them.
>
> Please start sending me your bookmarks sorted according to the
titles we
> discussed.
| Message 5
Subject: Re: How many tons of pea gravel per cubic yard?
From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 04:03:45 -0500
Carolyn,
A lot - I just bought some expanded clay which weighed 32# per cubic
foot. It was a delight to handle and not as back-breaking as
gravel.
> I'm getting ready to order the pea gravel for my biofilter. I need
10
> cubic yards. Anybody know how many tons that is? Approximately?
| Message 6
Subject: Perlite vs. pea gravel
From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 04:08:10 -0500
Bill,
Perlite is commonly used in hydroponic indtallations. Gordon Creaser
says some of his clients have successfully used perlite in connection
with aquaponic installations. However, Jim Rakocy warned me about the
possibility of problems related to perlite and filamentous bacteria.
It might make sense to do a test with your specific application to see
if it is a problem. I have enjoyed working with expanded clay over
the past couple of months because the aded weight makes transplanting
and clearing beds easier. What I'm using is screened to 3/8".
Adriana
> If it were available, would horticultural perlite work ???(the
large#3
> size- usually 1/4 " roughly)
. it's one fifteenth the density, and
holds
> air to boot( it's porous)
| Message 7
Subject: Ceramic Foam
From: "Stan Clayton"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 04:01:08 -0700
Arlos wrote:
> Have you consider other material besides pea gravel. Ceramic foam and a
> product from Australia called, "Biohome" which I believe is a sintered
> glass. Ceramic foam though more expensive than pea gravel but has
> infinitely far more surface area and you may be able to reduce the size of
> your biofilter bed. Mine is an 18" diameter pipe with flanges and blind
> flanges on both ends. a hub and lateral system offer nearly 100% bed use
as
> opposed to open beds which tend to channel. Arlos
Arlos,
Can you tell us where you got the ceramic foam? And how does its surface
area compare to crushed volcanic rock, do you know?
Thanks! Stan
| Message 8
Subject: Re: Hotmail accounts - settings
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:45:49 -0500
At 10:46 PM 06/18/2001 -0500, Pat wrote:
>Hey Paula and Lurker, Did my message come clear this time? Thanks Lurker
>for the info on the RTF. I'm almost a newbie at this, but be kind because
>I'm an old newbie :)
Looks great, Pat. Thank you (and the others) for checking their text
settings -- the list will be much easier to read!
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
| Message 9
Subject: RE: Perlite vs. pea gravel
From: "billevans"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:24:02 -0700
NOt having a "system", I'm not familiar w/ the particulars of one grow
media over another.
I only suggested it as it has a large surface area/low density- it's porous-
and weighs between 5- 10 pounds per ft^3.
It has no CEC to speak of
. the expanded clay sounds like it would . as
would lava gravel
. tho some lava's can be really high iron content which
might play havoc in a system?
bille
Perlite is commonly used in hydroponic indtallations. Gordon Creaser
says some of his clients have successfully used perlite in connection
with aquaponic installations.
| Message 10
Subject: Flow rate through biofilter
From: Carolyn Hoagland
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:39:05 -0500
Mike sent along some information yesterday from James E. Rakocy that
stated one of the concerns when operating a biofilter:
5) water flow velocities that do not dislodge bacteria.
Well? How many gallons per cubic foot per minute is too fast?
Thanks again.
Carolyn
| Message 11
Subject: alternatives to pea gravel
From: Carolyn Hoagland
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:48:14 -0500
Thanks to everyone who replied to my questions about pea gravel. Boy
was i surprised when I found out how much it cost! ($45 per ton here
locally) We live on a mountain plateau and it has to be hauled up
here from quite a distance. It turns out that crushed sandstone (3/8"
size) is about mined locally for about $6 ton, so it looks like that
is a better alternative to me. I can also get limestone inexpensively
if I need to modify PH later.
I know there are more efficient filter mediums, but cost is a big
factor for me since this is a hobby/experimental outdoor wetland
system for filtering our swimming hole.
Carolyn
| Message 12
Subject: RE: alternatives to pea gravel
From: "billevans"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:54:02 -0700
Hey, as long as it stays cemented together
. might want to just soak a
sample in some fake "aquaponic water"
. for a time and see how it holds
up
. . I'd be worried bout the stuff holding together. what if it turns to
sand in six months?
bille
.
It turns out that crushed sandstone (3/8"
size) is about mined locally for about $6 ton,
| Message 13
Subject: Re: Flow rate through biofilter
From: "TGTX"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:54:06 -0500
Carolyn,
I think Tom and Paula's system operates at about 0.625 gallons per minute
per cubic foot of gravel. That is pumping rate onto the gravel bed, not
drainage rate out
.O.K.?
I operated mine at about 0.38 gallons per minute per cubic foot of gravel.
So, about 1/2 gpm per cubic foot of gravel grow bed might be a good rule of
thumb.
Flooding time or total duration of flooding is key also, but you just have
to experiment with that to find the optimum. I used an adjustable
Intermatic timer about 5 minutes every 30 minutes worked pretty well, but my
system is unique, so just think about that and see if what your system might
be able to drain at without overtopping the bed and spilling water.
Ted
----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn Hoagland
To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:39 AM
Subject: Flow rate through biofilter
> Mike sent along some information yesterday from James E. Rakocy that
> stated one of the concerns when operating a biofilter:
>
> 5) water flow velocities that do not dislodge bacteria.
>
> Well? How many gallons per cubic foot per minute is too fast?
>
> Thanks again.
> Carolyn
>
>
| Message 14
Subject: Re: Perlite vs. pea gravel
From: LC543119 'at' aol.com
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:21:23 EDT
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Adriana, as you know I am consultant for some of the largest aquaponic
systems in the world and millions of $ have been spent in research, and the
conclusion was that perlite was the most practical and the best to work with
when you are working with muli acre systems. Gordon Creaser
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Adriana, as you know I am consultant for some
of the largest aquaponic
systems in the world and millions of $ have been spent in research, and the
conclusion was that perlite was the most practical and the best to work with
when you are working with muli acre systems. Gordon Creaser
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| Message 15
Subject: Re: Bookmarks Site soon?
From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:37:24 -0700
Hi Adrianna,
Im not sure I understand, but maybe we are crosstalking. Im coming from
the premise of a lot of folks always asking the same questions. If it is
of some help, I think a site where they can just BROWSE at hearts
content is good, INCLUDING us veterans. By merging all the bookmarks, we
will have a "master site" that will "last" for a good while because many
posts are repetitions of past things
such as seed or pump
sources
.they will just be posted at the site under seeds under the
link page
.so ANYONE can go to look there.
IT can act as a FAQ too because anyone who has been doing some lurking
for a while can at his/her leisure go look at the sites others have
already looked at.
So I wont be posting the bookmarks "back"
. Ill just be using the
categories we decided on to sort them, then post them to a site.
I havent heard back from Ada, so Im fiddling a bit with free webpages.
Have a exciting day!! (im going at noon to hang out at a tilapia farm
where I am working on some Wind powered aerators
.!!Yippee
.taking a
chicken and some cool drinks and matches and hey
lets see
:)
Peace,
Mike
gutierrez-lagatta wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> Please let us know where we can see your fianl master bookmark list
> so we can presort anything you send us. After all we each have our
> own filing systme and this is probably more refined that our
> individual lists.
| Message 16
Subject: Re: Tomato
From: "Steven Medlock"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:01:33 -0500
Thanks "socially insensitive" Steve,
I clicked the link and got a coming soon thing, I'll keep trying any
other ideas? How does this thing work anyway? I know I have to get
something going soon I am loosing a fair amount of blooms. I try the by
hand trick and it is a hit and miss thing. I sure hope I don't have to do it
to each one individually, I have at least 200 plus plants. Nice to talk to
someone that is growing them also.
I have a buyer here am anxious to get them going. Prices retail for
fresh on vine are going for 2.50 a pound. I haven't seen them in organic
form yet, but that fits my price very well.
Thanks again,
Red
----- Original Message -----
From: STEVE SPRING
To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: Tomato
> Hi "Red",
>
> This is "socially insensitive" Steve. Got your problem covered in SPADES.
> Got to wait a minute. Got to go upstairs and get my catalogue.
>
> No, I don't. My weak memory is coming back. www.hydrogardens.com
>
> Contact these people and they will send you a deluxe catalogue. In this
> catalogue, you will find a tomato pollinator. It is a very simple device.
> You just put a "AA" battery (I think) in it and it works like a charm. I
use
> this myself. I want to say it is $14.95.
>
> Everybody around here picks on me when I say, "I'm going to go vibrate my
> tomatoes." But, I'm the only one around here with tomatoes
.so guess
who
> gets the last laugh.
>
> I have ordered several things from these people and they are very
reputable.
> As a matter of fact, they are one of Gordon's favorites.
>
> Best of luck. Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Medlock"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:38 PM
> Subject: Tomato
>
>
> Any one know how to shake these tomato plants so they will pollinate? I
was
> told to use an electric toothbrush. but they all spin at the top. Know
Idea
> how to set it up or have any ideas on how to shake them. I set up some
fans
> tonight blowing on the plants and lines holding them up. Got to be a easy
> way I am not thinking of.
> Steve(red)
>
>
>
| Message 17
Subject: Re: Basil
From: "William Brown"
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:51:10 -1000
I can buy the large size clam shells (holds about 6 ounces lettuce) for 25
cents each delivered. Smaller ones are also available locally but no idea of
cost, less probably.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Katie Rezendes"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Basil
> Adriana,
>
> Thanks for the reply. Your information clears up the misleading info on
> the $22.40 a SQ Ft, every month. In order to be accurate the price of
> the clamshell containers must first be subtracted from the .70c a 1/2
> oz. Does anyone know how much the containers cost.
>
> Thanks for your reply Adriana
>
> Kevin & Katie
> Portsmouth, RI
>
> gutierrez-lagatta wrote:
> >
> > No, Gordon is not dreaming, those are real figures. Some of his
> > clients are growing basil for Melissa's which sells the cut herbs to
> > Walmart. These are packaged in clamshell containers so there is a lot
> > of labor and cost involved in packaging . A good bit of the $.70 is
> > for the clamshell. I do recommend his sytem.
> >
> > Adriana
> >
> > > I Just finished reading an article in the magazine FUTUREGROW, issue
> > 8.
> > > titled Commercial Hydroponics in the U.S.A
> > >
> > > The author, Gordon Creaser claims that he is working with growers in
> > > Florida that are selling cut Basil for .70c a half ounce bag, and
> > > producing 1lb of basil per sq ft of grow space per month. That works
> > out
> > > to $22.40!! a month per sq ft. Is This guy dreaming or did I just
> > die
> > > and go to haven.
>
| Message 18
Subject: RE: Tomatoes
From: "Charlie Shultz"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:41:02
Steve,
One method I used to use in a greenhouse aquaponic setup for pollination of
tomato is to use a small paint brush. Just transfer pollen from one flower
to the next and you should get fruit set.
Charlie
Subject: Tomato
From: "Steven Medlock"
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:38:58 -0500
Any one know how to shake these tomato plants so they will pollinate? I was
told to use an electric toothbrush. but they all spin at the top. Know Idea
how to set it up or have any ideas on how to shake them. I set up some fans
tonight blowing on the plants and lines holding them up. Got to be a easy
way I am not thinking of.
Steve(red)
| Message 19
Subject: Re: Tomatoes
From: "TGTX"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:43:58 -0500
Bumblebee colonies available at www.hydrogardens.com
Ted
----- Original Message -----
From: Charlie Shultz
To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 5:41 PM
Subject: RE: Tomatoes
> Steve,
>
> One method I used to use in a greenhouse aquaponic setup for pollination
of
> tomato is to use a small paint brush. Just transfer pollen from one
flower
> to the next and you should get fruit set.
>
> Charlie
>
>
> Subject: Tomato
> From: "Steven Medlock"
> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:38:58 -0500
>
> Any one know how to shake these tomato plants so they will pollinate? I
was
> told to use an electric toothbrush. but they all spin at the top. Know
Idea
> how to set it up or have any ideas on how to shake them. I set up some
fans
> tonight blowing on the plants and lines holding them up. Got to be a easy
> way I am not thinking of.
> Steve(red)
>
>
>
>
__________________
>
>
>
| Message 20
Subject: Re: Bookmarks Site soon?
From: "Chris G"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:14:52 -0400
Mike,
I have some space on my server if Adrianna doesn't or can't.
Christopher
>From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
>Reply-To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
>To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
>Subject: Re: Bookmarks Site soon?
>Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:37:24 -0700
>
>Hi Adrianna,
>
>Im not sure I understand, but maybe we are crosstalking. Im coming from
>the premise of a lot of folks always asking the same questions. If it is
>of some help, I think a site where they can just BROWSE at hearts
>content is good, INCLUDING us veterans. By merging all the bookmarks, we
>will have a "master site" that will "last" for a good while because many
>posts are repetitions of past things
such as seed or pump
>sources
.they will just be posted at the site under seeds under the
>link page
.so ANYONE can go to look there.
>
>IT can act as a FAQ too because anyone who has been doing some lurking
>for a while can at his/her leisure go look at the sites others have
>already looked at.
>
>So I wont be posting the bookmarks "back"
. Ill just be using the
>categories we decided on to sort them, then post them to a site.
>I havent heard back from Ada, so Im fiddling a bit with free webpages.
>
>
>
>Have a exciting day!! (im going at noon to hang out at a tilapia farm
>where I am working on some Wind powered aerators
.!!Yippee
.taking a
>chicken and some cool drinks and matches and hey
lets see
:)
>
>Peace,
>Mike
>
>
>gutierrez-lagatta wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > Please let us know where we can see your fianl master bookmark list
> > so we can presort anything you send us. After all we each have our
> > own filing systme and this is probably more refined that our
> > individual lists.
| Message 21
Subject: Re: Bookmarks Site soon?
From: "Ada Erickson"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:26:56 -0000
All-
I am sorry to be incommunicado lately. I just moved in and there were
multiple problems with the T-1. I seem to have them all sorted out and I am
going to pick up my box today.
I was also laid off from my job. Therefore, once I get a few online
"chores" out of the way, I will be able to dedicate some serious hours to
this project.
Third, please let me know how much disk space you think will be necessary,
allowing for growth. I can hook us up with what we need, but I need to know
what the project will encompass.
Thanks,
Ada
>From: "Chris G"
>Reply-To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
>To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
>Subject: Re: Bookmarks Site soon?
>Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:14:52 -0400
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>Mike,
>
>I have some space on my server if Adrianna doesn't or can't.
>
>Christopher
>
>>From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
>>Reply-To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
>>To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
>>Subject: Re: Bookmarks Site soon?
>>Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:37:24 -0700
>>
>>Hi Adrianna,
>>
>>Im not sure I understand, but maybe we are crosstalking. Im coming from
>>the premise of a lot of folks always asking the same questions. If it is
>>of some help, I think a site where they can just BROWSE at hearts
>>content is good, INCLUDING us veterans. By merging all the bookmarks, we
>>will have a "master site" that will "last" for a good while because many
>>posts are repetitions of past things
such as seed or pump
>>sources
.they will just be posted at the site under seeds under the
>>link page
.so ANYONE can go to look there.
>>
>>IT can act as a FAQ too because anyone who has been doing some lurking
>>for a while can at his/her leisure go look at the sites others have
>>already looked at.
>>
>>So I wont be posting the bookmarks "back"
. Ill just be using the
>>categories we decided on to sort them, then post them to a site.
>>I havent heard back from Ada, so Im fiddling a bit with free webpages.
>>
>>
>>
>>Have a exciting day!! (im going at noon to hang out at a tilapia farm
>>where I am working on some Wind powered aerators
.!!Yippee
.taking a
>>chicken and some cool drinks and matches and hey
lets see
:)
>>
>>Peace,
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>gutierrez-lagatta wrote:
>> >
>> > Mike,
>> >
>> > Please let us know where we can see your fianl master bookmark list
>> > so we can presort anything you send us. After all we each have our
>> > own filing systme and this is probably more refined that our
>> > individual lists.
>
>
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| Message 22
Subject: Fw: Tomatoes
From: "TGTX"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:49:39 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From: TGTX
To: billevans
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Tomatoes
> Sorry, I screwed up
. again
.my brain's a sieve sometimes. Gotta look
> into this or take more naps
.>
> Here it is: http://hydro-gardens.com/otherbio.html
>
> > zats just a domain name
. didnt find bumbles
>
> > Bumblebee colonies available at www.hydrogardens.com
> > Ted
>
>
| Message 23
Subject: We promise not to eat you
. or
. How to unstress fish
From: Corey Cassel
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:05:52 -0500
We've suffered a couple of minor (well, to us they're minor I'm not sure
the fish agree) setbacks over the past couple of weeks.
First we had a thermostat/heater malfunction that ended up soft boiling
a couple of our female breeders. Oddly enough, the fry they were
carrying seemed to survive ok.
Then one biofilters started to leak and we ended up having to replace
it, causing a rather enormous algae bloom when our nitrate level
skyrocketed before the newly installed biofilter could cycle.
Finally we had an air pump go off-line for about 12 hours which didn't
really cause any permanent harm but it seemed to annoy the fish for some
reason.
So yesterday when I was watching the breeders swim around (they were
still flashing me dirty looks when they thought I wasn't watching) I
noticed the tail fins and side fins of a couple of the females looked
like they were being chewed on, falling apart, turning white and getting
kind of ragged. I talked to my local fish guru and she said it sounded
like they had tail rot/fin rot.
She had me check the ammonia (0/ppm), nitrite (0/ppm) and nitrate
(25/ppm) levels which she said were all normal, and she said that the
fish were probably stressed because of the events of the past two weeks.
Rather than send for a fish therapist (do you have any idea how hard it
is to get a fish to lie still on a couch?) or promise not to eat them
(ok I admit I lied to the poor things,) she recommended either
tetracycline or penicillin (neither of which I wanted to do) she finally
suggested a product called Mela-Fix, it's supposedly a natural anti-
bacterial remedy for fin/tail rot.
My question is does anyone have any experience with this product or know
of any other products or methods of treating this or should I break down
and see if I can get my fish added to my health insurance as dependants,
before I try fish psycho-analysis?
Thanks in advance.
Corey
| Message 24
Subject: Re: Perlite vs. pea gravel
From: kris book
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:02:43 -0600
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For anyone living in the Southwest, there is a perlite company in
Antonito,Colorado. They only sell large quantities of bulk perlite but,
there is a couple of acres of piles of perlite that have been thrown out
because different sizes get mixed. Their screens are 25 miles south at
the mine in New Mexico. They were kind enough to load my truck for free
both times I've been there. You will need to make a couple wood frames
with different sized hardware cloth to screen the perlite to the right
size. Don't forget a good tarp cause, dry perlite is so lightweight. And
don't go right after a rain, they load it with a tractor but, shoveling
wet perlite out of your truck is no joke. The company's name is
Harborlite Corp. www.quarryworld.com
kris book
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| Message 25
Subject: bumble bee's
From: "Steven Medlock"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:15:55 -0500
Has anyone used these bumble bee's for pollination? The web site says they
are extremely efficient?
Steve(red)
| Message 26
Subject: Re: bumble bee's
From: "Jay Myers"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:21:36 -0500
Steve -
They really are ! They go to work early in the morning, work all day, and
are back in their box late in the day. Never call in sick, need pay
advances, want raises, etc., etc.
Problem is they are expensive, so you need a lot of plants to justify. We
use them on our winter strawberry crop of 12,000 plants in the g/h, but do
the tomatoes in the summer by hand pollinator. We only have about 75 tom
plants.
Jay
Panama City Beach, Fl.
> Has anyone used these bumble bee's for pollination? The web site says
they
> are extremely efficient?
> Steve(red)
>
| Message 27
Subject: Re: Bookmarks posted.From: Bill Patrick
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:47:22 -0400
Mike,
I too (along with Adriana maybe) am a little confused as to what you
would like. Do you want us the sort our bookmarks per the list the
below or just send them wholesale as they are, to you?
Thanks,
Bill
dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com wrote:
>
> Here is the list as refined
.This can be expanded at a later time.
> Site of posting to be announced. Ada, did you want to post the bookmark
> list on your site? I can provide a site and you can link to it??
>
> Aerators-Blowers
> Alternative Animal Feeds
> Alternative Cooling
> Alternative Energy Sources
> Alternative Farming
> Alternative Health
> Alternative Heating
> Alternative Buildings - Sod Yurts
> Alternative Technology
> Aquaculture
> Aquaculture Machinery
> Aquaponic Parameters for Indigenous Species
> Aquaponics
> Aquaria-Ornamental Fish
> Biodigestion
> Biofilters
> Chemical Search Engines
> Composting
> Cooking-Recipes
> Crop specific information
> Dictionaries
> Ecotourism
> Electrical Engineering/Repairs
> Extension Services
> Farming
> Fish Resources
> Flowers
> Greenhouse Automation
> Greenhouse Structures
> Groups or Associations
> Grow Beds
> Herbs
> Herbs
> Hydroponics
> Large Equipment
> Lighting
> Marketing
> Nutrients
> Organic Certification regulations
> Organics
> Ozone Friendly
> Packaging-Suppliers/Machines
> Permaculture
> Pest Management
> Plastics-Liners/Greenhouse Coverings
> Pond Stuff
> Post-Harvest /Handling
> Preserving
> Publications
> Pumps-Suppliers/Models
> PVC Issues
> Rain Water
> Recipes
> Rockwool
> Schools-Aquaponic Curriculum and School Visit Info
> Search Engines
> Seed Sources-Seed Trays
> Small Engines
> Solar Equipment
> Tissue Culture
> Tubing
> Universities
> Waste Digestion
> Water Purification
> Water Quality
>
> Mike,
> JAMAICA.
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