Aquaponics Digest - Wed 06/20/01



Message   1: Re: Tomato
             from "STEVE SPRING" 

Message   2: Re: Tomato
             from fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)

Message   3: Re: bumble bee's
             from "STEVE SPRING" 

Message   4: Re: Tomato
             from "STEVE SPRING" 

Message   5: Re: Tomato
             from "STEVE SPRING" 

Message   6: Re: Need help finding a source for very small water misting nozzels
             from "Judith M. Bailey" 

Message   7: Fwd. Ohio Aquaculture Workshop
             from S & S Aqua Farm 

Message   8: pollenating .             from Ray Schneider 

Message   9: [Fwd: Re: Bookmarks posted
.]
             from dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com

Message  10: [Fwd: Chuck needs HTML HELP!]
             from dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com

Message  11: Basic Principles of Biofiltration
             from dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com

| Message 1  

Subject: Re: Tomato
From:    "STEVE SPRING" 
Date:    Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:43:35 -0500

Hi Steve,

Was looking at my catalogue today and realized that the address I gave you
wasn't 100% correct. I thought that someone on the list would have caught it
by now. The correct address is: www.hydro-gardens.com.

http://www.hydro-gardens.com/growsup1.htm#pollinator

Here is a picture of it. (above address)

You say that you have 200 plants. Wow! Thats a lot of plants. Be sure and
tell the people at hydrogardens that you have that many plants. They may
have a pollinator that is better suited for you.

I have only ten plants growing in Earth Boxes. They are doing great. If I
can make them last through the winter, I will be expanding my greenhouse.

Hope this clears up things a little and helps you somewhat.

Yours truly

Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Medlock" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Tomato

Thanks "socially insensitive" Steve,
   I clicked the link and got a coming soon thing,  I'll keep trying any
other ideas?  How does this thing work anyway?  I know I have to get
something going soon I am loosing a fair amount of blooms.  I try the by
hand trick and it is a hit and miss thing. I sure hope I don't have to do it
to each one individually, I have at least 200 plus plants.  Nice to talk to
someone that is growing them also.
  I have a buyer here am anxious to get them going.   Prices retail for
fresh on vine are going for 2.50 a pound.  I haven't seen them in organic
form yet, but that fits my price very well.
Thanks again,
Red
----- Original Message -----
From: STEVE SPRING 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: Tomato

> Hi "Red",
>
> This is "socially insensitive" Steve. Got your problem covered in SPADES.
> Got to wait a minute. Got to go upstairs and get my catalogue.
>
> No, I don't. My weak memory is coming back. www.hydrogardens.com
>
> Contact these people and they will send you a deluxe catalogue. In this
> catalogue, you will find a tomato pollinator. It is a very simple device.
> You just put a "AA" battery (I think) in it and it works like a charm. I
use
> this myself. I want to say it is $14.95.
>
> Everybody around here picks on me when I say, "I'm going to go vibrate my
> tomatoes." But, I'm the only one around here with tomatoes

.so guess
who
> gets the last laugh.
>
> I have ordered several things from these people and they are very
reputable.
> As a matter of fact, they are one of Gordon's favorites.
>
> Best of luck.   Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Medlock" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:38 PM
> Subject: Tomato
>
>
> Any one know how to shake these tomato plants so they will pollinate?  I
was
> told to use an electric toothbrush. but they all spin at the top. Know
Idea
> how to set it up or have any ideas on how to shake them.  I set up some
fans
> tonight blowing on the plants and lines holding them up.  Got to be a easy
> way I am not thinking of.
> Steve(red)
>
>
>

| Message 2  

Subject: Re: Tomato
From:    fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
Date:    Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:05:19 -0500 (CDT)

Steve try to get a vibrator made for that purpose from a hydroponics
supplier
            Bruce

| Message 3  

Subject: Re: bumble bee's
From:    "STEVE SPRING" 
Date:    Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:20:21 -0500

Hi Steve,

I totally agree with Jay in the following post. Bumblebees are the world's
#1 pollinator. They are fantastic. Problem is, as Jay says, they're
expensive & how do you keep them home. (My greenhouse is an open hoop
house
.flaps on the sides are open to allow heat to escape

(except when
we are having one of our frequent Wisconsin hurricanes.) (Jeez!  I've been
all over the world and I've never seen any place that has the intense storms
that we have here.)

I wish I knew how to work my scanner and send you a picture of my tomato
plants in the Earth Boxes http://www.earthbox.com/  They are exceeding all
of my expectations. I hand-pollinate using the hydrogardens tomato
pollinator (which I have sent you a picture of) and I have blooms & tomatos
"coming out of the yazoo". I am so excited by this, because I have had such
abysmal results trying to grow tomatos aquaponically.

Also, the idea of the paint brush  mentioned earlier would also work. The
problem is that it is "work".  That little tomato pollinator is really
"cool", besides that, I really get a "kick" out of telling people that I
have to go "vibrate" my tomatos.

And, as I said before, IT WORKS!

These are just my thoughts. Hope you find what works for you. Just hope I
have helped a little.

Take care my friend

.Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Medlock" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:15 PM
Subject: bumble bee's

Has anyone used these bumble bee's for pollination?  The web site says they
are extremely efficient?
Steve(red)

| Message 4  

Subject: Re: Tomato
From:    "STEVE SPRING" 
Date:    Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:27:22 -0500

I "thought" that was what I did. That is the "Tomato Pollinator" that I have
already posted a picture of.

It works really good.

SS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Schreiber" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: Tomato

Steve try to get a vibrator made for that purpose from a hydroponics
supplier
            Bruce

| Message 5  

Subject: Re: Tomato
From:    "STEVE SPRING" 
Date:    Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:30:21 -0500

SORRY BRUCE!!

I'm spoiled! I'm used to being the only Steve on this list. If you would, in
the future, refer to "Red" as "Red".

SORRY 'BOUT THAT!!

Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Schreiber" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: Tomato

Steve try to get a vibrator made for that purpose from a hydroponics
supplier
            Bruce

| Message 6  

Subject: Re: Need help finding a source for very small water misting nozzels
From:    "Judith M. Bailey" 
Date:    Wed, 20 Jun 2001 02:48:17 -0500

Hi I found misters that can be fitted to pvc at a poultry supply place you probably could find
them at
kennel supply places etc. for cooling birds and animals.  Judy Bailey

amackay wrote:

> Hi Ron:
>
> I just bought one at my local garden centre here in New Brunswick. Brass DRAMM Fogg-it
Nozzle. Model
> 12344, DRAMM Corporation, P.O. Box 1960, Manitowoc, WI 5422l. Its very small (1-1/4" dia.)
and screws
> directly onto a garden hose fitting.
>
> Art MacKay
>
> Subject: Need help finding a source for very small water misting nozzels
> From:    "Ronald Salyer" 
> Date:    Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:47:39 -0400
>
> Dumbest of questions
.?   Oh yeah, that my que.  Can anyone on the list
> help me find a source for an effective but inexpensive very small water
> mister.  Not a sprayer, but a mister, as close to a fog as misting
> technology will allow.
>
> Any ideas out there?
>
> Thank you all,
>
> Ron

| Message 7  

Subject: Fwd. Ohio Aquaculture Workshop
From:    S & S Aqua Farm 
Date:    Wed, 20 Jun 2001 07:03:24 -0500

Ohio Fish Farming 
"The Wave of the Present"

The Ohio Aquaculture Association is holding a two-day workshop designed to
help existing and beginning fish culturists explore new opportunities in
aquaculture.  The workshop will be produced in cooperation with Ohio State
University, the North Central Regional Aquaculture Center, and many others.
The Workshop will be held July 20-21, 2001 at the farm of the region's
largest yellow perch fingerling producer.  Day one will focus on Yellow
Perch and include information on producing and marketing this popular
species. There will be a social and fish fry Friday evening.  Day two will
be an introductory workshop that will cover aquaculture from business
planning to growing freshwater shrimp.  The day will end with a tour of
Domer's Fish hatchery and several demonstrations.  A trade show will be
operating throughout both days, Friday and Saturday, with feed companies,
suppliers and other state agencies offering their wares.  For a brochure
contact Cindy Lewis 740-289-2071.   For information contact Laura Tiu,
Aquaculture Specialist for Ohio State University 740-289-2071.  
Laura Tiu 

Friday, July 20 - Advanced            Workshop

"A Day with Yellow Perch"
Moderator:  George Hood, Pres. OAA
8:00-8:30 AM:  Registration 
8:30-9:15 AM:  "Potential of Yellow Perch as an Aquaculture Species" - Dr.
Jeffrey Malison, University of Wisconsin
9:15-10:00 AM: "Yellow Perch Markets: Status & Future" - Chris Bennett
10:00-10:30 AM:  BREAK
10:30-11:15 AM: "Options for Producing Perch Fry" - Laura Tiu, The Ohio
State University
11:15-12:00 PM:  "Pond Fertilization Strategies for Fry Grow-out" - Dr.
David Culver, The Ohio State University
12:00-1:00 PM  LUNCH
1:00-1:45 PM:  "Perch Fingerling Feed Training Options" - Marty Domer, Ohio
Fish Industries, Inc.
1:45-2:30 PM:  "Pond Grow-out Strategies" - Dr. Jeffrey Malison, University
of Wisconsin
2:30-2:45 PM  BREAK 
2:45-3:30 PM:  "Growing Perch in Recirculation Systems" - Dr. David Smith,
Freshwater Farms of Ohio
3:30-4:15 PM: Perch Feeds and Nutrition - Representative from a Feed Mill
4:15-5:00 PM:  "Aquaculture: Legal Aspects" - David Gollon, Wisconsin
Aquaculture Association
5:00-5:30 PM: Ohio Aquaculture Association Business Meeting

Friday Evening Social & Dinner (5:30 -? PM)

Fresh Fish, Shredded Chicken Sandwiches, Pit Beef, Corn-on-the-Cob, Baked
Potatoes, Cole Slaw, Cake & Ice Cream, Soda and Beer.

Saturday, July 21 - Introductory            Workshop

Moderator:  Laura Tiu, OSU Centers at Piketon
8:00-8:30 AM:  Registration 
8:30 - 8:45 AM: "Welcome", George Hood,
       President, Ohio Aquaculture Association
8:45-9:15 AM:  "So You Want to Grow Fish -
Available Resources" - Laura Tiu, OSU Centers at Piketon
9:15-9:45 AM: "Selling Your Products" - John Ellerman, OSU Centers at Piketon
9:45-10:15 AM:  "The Beginning: Enterprise Budgets & Business Plans" - Julie
Fox,  OSU Centers at Piketon
10:15-10:30 AM:  BREAK
10:30-11:00 AM: "Growing Freshwater Shrimp" - Shawn Coyle, Kentucky State
University 
11:00-11:30 AM:  "Growing Largemouth Bass" -  Shawn Coyle, Kentucky State
University
11:30-12:00 AM: "Growing Baitfish" - Fred 
       Snyder, OSU Sea Grant
12:00-12:30 PM  LUNCH
12:30-2:30 PM:  "Recirculation Systems" - Mark Brotman, Kinetico, Inc.
12:30-2:30 PM: "Pond Culture of Fish" - Geoff Wallat, OSU Centers at Piketon 
12:30-2:30 PM: "Cage Culture of Fish" - Laura Tiu, OSU Centers at Piketon
2:30-3:00 PM:  BREAK
3:00-5:00 PM:  Tour of Domer's Fish Hatchery & Interaction with Speakers.
Water Quality Demo, Fish Feeding Demo, Fish Filleting Demo., Pond Seining
Demo., Grading Demo.

Trade Show
Throughout both Friday and Saturday, there will be a trade show in which
registered attendees can acquire information from feed companies,
aquaculture suppliers, and other related entities.  We encourage all
attendees to visit the vendors as time permits. Trade show free to all
registrants.
Registration Information
(limited  registration)
Clip and Mail to:       
Ohio Aquaculture Association
C/o Laura Tiu
1864 Shyville Road
Piketon, Ohio 45661-9749
or Call: 1-800-297-2072 (in Ohio)
 or 1-740-289-2071 and ask for Cindy

Name: _____________________________
Address: ___________________________
City: ________________ State: ________
Zip Code:___________________________
Phone: ____________________________
e-mail: ____________________________
Costs (please circle choices)
                     At      Advanced      OAA
Event                Door   Registration  Members**
Friday Only 
Workshop        $100.00 $75.00  $50.00
   - Spouse*    $45.00  $35.00  $25.00  
Dinner  $30.00  $25.00  $20.00
    - Spouse*   $25.00  $20.00  $15.00
Saturday Only 
Workshop        $75.00  $50.00  $25.00
   - Spouse*    $35.00  $25.00  $15.00
Friday & Saturday (includes dinner)
Total   $200.00 $145.00 $90.00
   + Spouse*    $100.00 $75.00  $50.00

*  Spouse rate does not include a notebook and applies to children also.
* * OAA Members Rate is for Advanced                           Registration Only

Total Remitted:  $__________
Make checks payable to:
Ohio Aquaculture Association

See our website: http://www.ag.ohio-state.edu/~prec/aqua/ 

| Message 8  

Subject: pollenating .From:    Ray Schneider 
Date:    Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:06:40 -0400

Well I grow outdoors as a hobbyist -- since I support my tomatoes with strings hung down from a
support structure I do one
of two things to help pollenation -- 1) twang the strings a little every morning, 2) use a thin
dowl and wack'em a little
lightly --which is similar to the vibrator idea which undoubtedly is one of the better ways. --
Last year when I planted
cucumbers in my channel I discovered that their flowers really attracted the bees -- so that
may promote pollenation too for
those like myself who are doing their hydroponics outdoors.

Cheers, Ray
--
Ray Schneider,PE,PhD
On the Search for the PERFECT tomato .Come See Me at http://www.user.shentel.net/rschneid

| Message 9  

Subject: [Fwd: Re: Bookmarks posted
.]
From:    dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Date:    Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:59:06 -0700

Message-ID: <3B3130BB.7D02 'at' cwjamaica.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:40:30 -0700
From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Reply-To: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Organization: Barnetech Industrial Consultants
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT-bw  (Win95; U)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Subject: Re: Bookmarks posted.References: <3B1B3BB9.65A3 'at' cwjamaica.com> <3B300EBA.67E0EAE9 'at' zb.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I knew there was a simple way of saying what I wanted
. :> :>
Thanks for saying it Bill

 I guess what I am trying to say is.everyone just sent me your bookmarks "WHOLESALE" as they are!!

This pogram that I am using is a whiz
!! I will then type in the list
below
.merge or "import" all list sent to me
. and BASTA
.all
Frazziliion of them sorted
.!! Its really neat!!

So send BULK
.UNSORTED
.saves you allll that work!!

SO send send send!! :) (Dont mind my enthusiasm, overjoyed but pained up
from  a lobster dinner last night
. I went to look at the wind rigs we
are trying to set up, catch some ornamentals for the biofilters, and
netted a few lobster
.mmmh REDCLAW at that
.man were they fine
.I had
a taste of some honeywine
mmmh and had some vegi-rice cooked in coconut
juice
fine
!!

In case someone else has a challenge sending their favorites file
this
was posted to me on another list!! I havent tried it!!

Mike:

        Check out a freeware utility from ZDnet called FavesToGo.  It
may be
what you are looking for.  URL below:
http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/stories/info/0,10615,77430,00.html

Regards,

Mike.

Bill Patrick wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> I too (along with Adriana maybe) am a little confused as to what you
> would like.  Do you want us the sort our bookmarks per the list the
> below or just send them wholesale as they are, to you?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill
> 
> >
> > Aerators-Blowers
> > Alternative Animal Feeds
> > Alternative Cooling
> > Alternative Energy Sources
> > Alternative Farming
> > Alternative Health
> > Alternative Heating
> > Alternative Buildings - Sod Yurts
> > Alternative Technology
> > Aquaculture
> > Aquaculture Machinery
> > Aquaponic Parameters for Indigenous Species
> > Aquaponics
> > Aquaria-Ornamental Fish
> > Biodigestion
> > Biofilters
> > Chemical Search Engines
> > Composting
> > Cooking-Recipes
> > Crop specific information
> > Dictionaries
> > Ecotourism
> > Electrical Engineering/Repairs
> > Extension Services
> > Farming
> > Fish Resources
> > Flowers
> > Greenhouse Automation
> > Greenhouse Structures
> > Groups or Associations
> > Grow Beds
> > Herbs
> > Herbs
> > Hydroponics
> > Large Equipment
> > Lighting
> > Marketing
> > Nutrients
> > Organic Certification regulations
> > Organics
> > Ozone Friendly
> > Packaging-Suppliers/Machines
> > Permaculture
> > Pest Management
> > Plastics-Liners/Greenhouse Coverings
> > Pond Stuff
> > Post-Harvest /Handling
> > Preserving
> > Publications
> > Pumps-Suppliers/Models
> > PVC Issues
> > Rain Water
> > Recipes
> > Rockwool
> > Schools-Aquaponic Curriculum and School Visit Info
> > Search Engines
> > Seed Sources-Seed Trays
> > Small Engines
> > Solar Equipment
> > Tissue Culture
> > Tubing
> > Universities
> > Waste Digestion
> > Water Purification
> > Water Quality
> >
> > Mike,
> > JAMAICA.

| Message 10 

Subject: [Fwd: Chuck needs HTML HELP!]
From:    dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Date:    Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:00:32 -0700

Message-ID: <3B317A85.1A02 'at' cwjamaica.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:39:33 -0700
From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Reply-To: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Organization: Barnetech Industrial Consultants
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT-bw  (Win95; U)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: N6XF 'at' aol.com
CC: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Subject: Chuck needs HTML HELP!
References: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Chuck,
Great to have you on board. Yes your mails do come out bold and with
very large writing. The HTML we speak about is not the "programming"
type
.it is the type of text caused by HTML, which gives fancy fonts!
For some people whos browser cant read the HTML, it comes out like
garbled language

 you know with all the things you mentioned.

It can be changed by simply changing the setting for mail type in your
mail browser. Because I adamantly choose the oldest (and fastest :>)
browser there is 
.I have to "pass" on how to change it but I will post
this to the list. Maybe someone with a bit more knowledge can tell you
how to switch it off.

In other words Chuck, take it easy
. you are a few clicks away from
"being cool"
.:) as soon as someone helps here, but seeing that you
have subscribed to the coolest group around
. that will be soon!!

Great to have you on the list and look forward to seeing lotsa stuff
from you.

Regards 
Mike,
JAMAICA.

N6XF 'at' aol.com wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the information on the bio-filters.  Being somewhat new
> to the
> list, I am not sure I understand about the HTML.  When I post a MSG to
> the
> list, does it come out as HTML?  I will hit the books tonight and try
> to
> figure out what you are referring to.  I don't know much about HTML
> yet, but
> I just bought a book on it.  I am going to hold off on posting to the
> list
> until I figure out what's going on with the HTML. I thought that HTML
> was
> used in making web pages and had special characteristics like   "

". >>>> snipped<<< Again, thanks for taking the time to respond, and if you > have > time, let me know how to post without generating HTML inadvertently > chuck, > Fort Myers, FL. Email n6xf 'at' aol.com. (N6XF is my ham radio call > sign) > chuck | Message 11 Subject: Basic Principles of Biofiltration From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:36:10 -0700 Basic Principles of Biofiltration see here . http://131.230.57.1/fishweb/bull9a.htm Regards, Mike.

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