Aquaponics Digest - Mon 06/25/01



Message   1: Change Address
             from "Ada Erickson" 

Message   2: Re: Bumble bees
             from fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)

Message   3: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Sun 06/24/01
             from David Weeks 

Message   4: RE: Plagas del Campo Control biologico
             from "Jorge Revenga" 

| Message 1  

Subject: Change Address
From:    "Ada Erickson" 
Date:    Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:46:31 -0000

Please change my address to ada 'at' primadonnasrevenge.com

| Message 2  

Subject: Re: Bumble bees
From:    fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
Date:    Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:07:59 -0500 (CDT)

Steven    just so you know the bumble bees are good workers as long as
you don't step on, in, or knock over their hive .     If you do you will
likely get badly stung so learn to respect them.If for some reason they
get agitated stop all movement and I mean freeze until they quiet down
and you should not be attacked they will not see you as an aggressor
          Bruce

| Message 3  

Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Sun 06/24/01
From:    David Weeks 
Date:    Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:01:46 -0700 (PDT)

Steve, check out the 'postal' scales at Office Max or Office Depot. I got a
digital scale there a few years ago that would weigh up to about 5 lb or
2Kilo,cost <$100.

Good luck

David
|  
|  Also, I would like info on a scale that weighs in oz's. Anyone out there
got
|  got any info on this. Everyone I look at cost $400+.
|  
|  Would appreciate any input.
|  
|  Thanks

Steve
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|  | Message 2  
|  
|  Subject: Re: thanks, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?pac=FA_feed?=, binders
|  From:    fishmanbruce 'at' webtv.net (Bruce Schreiber)
|  Date:    Sun, 24 Jun 2001 08:50:38 -0500 (CDT)
|  
|  Pablo   red pacu fingerlings are being offered for $70per hundred out of
|  Florida on special right now from (5Ds in Plant City Florida
|  1-800-7775D5D). Thats 70 cents each now keep in mind at the pet store
|  they are marked up considerably so it might be to your advantage to set
|  up a fake pet store front so you can get the wholesale price lists sent
|  to you automatically. Where are you located ? I bet you could get them
|  out of Florida  UPS or FEDEX or you could just pick them up at the
|  airport 
|   Think of Pacu as you would goats they will eat just about any yard
|  waste like lawn clippings 
|                               Bruce
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|  | Message 3  
|  
|  Subject: Re: tomato vibrator/scales
|  From:    "jimtee" 
|  Date:    Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:19:05 -0400
|  
|  Steve,
|  
|      Try this web address they are a jewelry equipt supplier, I know that
|  they sell a small digital scale
|  that weights in troy ozs, grams and pennyweights and regular ozs  Ohaus
|  scale model SC 40??
|  something or another if you are weighing small portions this will be
great
|  very durable for small scale
|  careful troy oz is heavier than avdvoporis  oz
|  
|  http://brushapple.com/
|  -----Original Message-----
|  From: STEVE SPRING 
|  To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com 
|  Date: Sunday, June 24, 2001 1:21 AM
|  Subject: tomato vibrator/scales
|  
|  
|  >I have been using and suggesting the use of a tomato vibrator from
|  >www.hydro-gardens.com.
|  >
|  >See picture below:
|  >
|  >http://www.hydro-gardens.com/growsup1.htm#pollinator
|  >
|  >It is a very good vibrator and cost only $14.95.
|  >
|  >I. Red, Alan and other subscribers have more than a "few" tomato plants.
We
|  >would like to know if anyone has any info on a more commercial tomato
|  >pollinator.
|  >
|  >Also, I would like info on a scale that weighs in oz's. Anyone out there
|  got
|  >got any info on this. Everyone I look at cost $400+.
|  >
|  >Would appreciate any input.
|  >
|  >Thanks

Steve
|  >
|  >
|  >
|  >
|  
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|  | Message 4  
|  
|  Subject: Re: super oxygenated water
|  From:    "TGTX" 
|  Date:    Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:39:11 -0500
|  
|  > Mark,
|  >   Not to start a string of dissent here but the entire planet at sea
level
|  > has essentially the same percent of oxygen in the atmosphere. Polluting
|  > autos not withstanding.
|  
|  True.  Thank you.
|  
|  >   As an operator you should know that chlorine is cheap and has for the
|  most
|  > part separated us from the third world. We as a species have bode well
on
|  > the water this planet has provided for millions of years dissolved
|  minerals
|  > and all. If you read the AWWA journals you know also there are changes
|  > taking place in disinfection methods. Chlorine and fluoride are indeed
|  > abundant, ozone is expensive and has little trace due to a short life.
|  > Reverse osmosis in this country has yet to find broad usage and is
still
|  > expensive. ]
|  
|  Trends may change that shortly (within 5-20 years), but, yeah
.True.
Thank
|  you.
|  
|  >By products of disinfection do have their drawbacks but in terms
|  > of the learning curve historically we are engaging  newer
environmentally
|  > friendly technologies that will have shown chlorine was the correct
method
|  > due to its ease of producing (I've installed enough EDR equipment to
|  produce
|  > chlorine from sea water at desalination plants world wide to know).
Spend
|  > enough time in other countries and one finds its greener on the other
side
|  > and not in ways you'd care to experience. I for one am happy with tap
|  water
|  > in general  in the U.S.and the infrastructure that has provided it.  We
|  have
|  > an amazingly high quality of life over all due to clean water in this
|  > country. Thanks to everyone from plumbers and pipefitters to engineers
and
|  > operators and lab rats (the ones in the white coats). As an operator,
|  you're
|  > part of that and should have a certain amount of pride in protecting
the
|  > health of the nation.
|  >
|  > Arlos
|  
|  Thank you, Arlos.  You are saying it aint perfect, but it aint all that
bad
|  compared with what it could be like

and you have reality to back you
up
|  to compare what it could be like

a comparison that many of us pampered
|  citizens of high tech industrial societies are mostly unaware of, or
|  unappriciative of, on a day to day basis
 Thank you.
|  
|  Ted
|  
|  
|  
|  
|  

|  | Message 5  
|  
|  Subject: Re: tomato vibrator/scales
|  From:    "Steven Medlock" 
|  Date:    Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:44:30 -0500
|  
|  Just for info, I have ordered the bumble bees. I will let everyone know
how
|  it goes.  There was no way I could pollinate 200 plants by hand.  I am
open
|  to any other options. the bees are expensive. But to the amount of blooms
I
|  am loosing worth it.  I have started with 30 plants way ahead of the
other
|  200 or so glad I did that, now I can work through all my problems. 
Lesson
|  learned.
|  Red
|  ----- Original Message -----
|  From: STEVE SPRING 
|  To: 
|  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 12:24 AM
|  Subject: tomato vibrator/scales
|  
|  
|  > I have been using and suggesting the use of a tomato vibrator from
|  > www.hydro-gardens.com.
|  >
|  > See picture below:
|  >
|  > http://www.hydro-gardens.com/growsup1.htm#pollinator
|  >
|  > It is a very good vibrator and cost only $14.95.
|  >
|  > I. Red, Alan and other subscribers have more than a "few" tomato
plants.
|  We
|  > would like to know if anyone has any info on a more commercial tomato
|  > pollinator.
|  >
|  > Also, I would like info on a scale that weighs in oz's. Anyone out
there
|  got
|  > got any info on this. Everyone I look at cost $400+.
|  >
|  > Would appreciate any input.
|  >
|  > Thanks

Steve
|  >
|  >
|  >
|  >
|  
|  
|  

Marinatha Farm
'Seek and you will find, Knock, and it will be opened unto you, ask and you
will receive'

| Message 4  

Subject: RE: Plagas del Campo Control biologico
From:    "Jorge Revenga" 
Date:    Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:29:07 -0300

-----Mensaje original-----
De: TGTX 
Para: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com 
Fecha: Sábado 23 de Junio de 2001 15:32
Asunto: Plagas del Campo Control biologico

>I was recently given a book printed in Espana, entitled "Plagas del Campo-
>Control biologico" by Trevor G. Forsythe.
>
>I was wondering if anyone on the list could translate the following to
>English for me:
>On page 68 it says:
>
>Barreras
>
>    Probablemente, el mejor metodo para proteger las zanahorias de la mosca
>de la zanahoria es erigiendo una barrera de 80 cm de alto alrededor del
>cultivo pero sin cubrirlo.  La majoria de moscas adultas de la zanahoria
que
>se introducen en las parcelas de zanahorias son hembras y la mayoria se
>aproximan a contraviento a una altura de 40 cm por encima del nivel del
>suelo, posiblemente en respuesta al olo de la zanahoria.
>
>    El marco de la barrera deberia ocupar 1-1,3 m^2 y ser lo mas resistente
>posible, con los lados cubiertos con una mall fina opaca para dejar las
>moscas fuera.  Como alternativa pueda emplerse polinteno doblado. (Ver Fig.
>26)
>
>    Tambien es posible evitar el ataque de las mosca de la zanahoria
>mediante el empleo de tuneles de plastico o campanas de cristal.  Las
>plantas deben encontrarse apartadas de la pared de la campana o tunel al
>menos 50 cm ya que las larvas pueden migar hasta 50 cm para alcanzar la
>planta anfitrion.

>Thanks.
>
>Ted

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I am trying  to translate:

BARRIERS

PROBABLY, THE BEST METHOD TO PROTECT CARROTS AGAINST CARROTīS FLY IS BY
BUILDING UP AN 80 CM IN HEIGHT BARRIER AROUND, WITHOUT COVERING PLANTS. MOST
ADULT CARROTīS FLIES THAT INVADE CROPS ARE FEMALES. THEY  FLIGHT 40 CM FROM
THE FLOOR AGAINST THE WIND, PROBABLY AS A RESPONSE TO CARROTīS SMELL.
THE FRAME OF THE BARRIER SHOULD BE 1-1.3 SQUARE METERS. IT SHOULD ALSO BE AS
RESISTANT AS POSSIBLE AND ITS SIDES COVERED WITH A SMALL IN SIZE, OPAQUE
MESH TO KEEP THE FLIES OUTSIDE. AS AN ALTERNATIVE, (TO THE MESH, I
UNDERSTAND) POLYETHYLENE CAN BE USED.

PLASTIC TUNNEL OR GLASS BELLS CAN ALSO BE USED AGAINST CARROTīS FLY. PLANTS
SHOULD BE SEPARATED AT LEAST 50 CM FROM THE TUNNEL (OR BELL) WALL SINCE
LARVAE CAN MIGRATE (OVER 50 CM) TO REACH HOST PLANTS.

Hope it helps

Jorge


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