Aquaponics Digest - Sun 07/29/01
Message 1: Re: plumbing leaks
from dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Message 2: Re: DO MESUREMENT
from pablo obiaga
Message 3: Re: plumbing leaks
from "Arlos"
Message 4: Re: Instrumentation
from "Arlos"
Message 5: rms
from Ray Schneider
Message 6: Re: plumbing leaks
from "gutierrez-lagatta"
Message 7: Re: Greenwater sludge>>methane
from kris book
Message 8: RE: rms
from "Mark Allen Wells"
Message 9: RE: Greenwater sludge>>methane
from "Mark Allen Wells"
Message 10: RE: rms
from "Mark Allen Wells"
Message 11: Re: W.W. Grainger pumps?
from "Sunpeer"
Message 12: digestion-subscribe 'at' crest.org
from Darren Pearce
Message 13: OT- Biogas list.
from dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Message 14: Re: OT- Biogas list.
from kris book
Message 15: RE: Greenwater sludge>>methane
from "Hurst, Steve ( China)"
Message 16: Lily vase-Betta bowl
from "Mark Allen Wells"
Message 17: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
from "Billy Miller"
Message 18: RE: digestion-subscribe 'at' crest.org
from "Hurst, Steve ( China)"
Message 19: RE: Lily vase-Betta bowl
from "Mark Allen Wells"
Message 20: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
from "gutierrez-lagatta"
Message 21: swamp cooler
from "Steven Medlock"
Message 22: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
from kris book
Message 23: Re: swamp cooler
from kris book
Message 24: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
from "Arlos"
Message 25: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
from Bertmcl 'at' aol.com
Message 26: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
from "Arlos"
Message 27: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
from "gerry magnuson"
Message 28: Re: swamp cooler
from "Steven Medlock"
Message 29: RE: Lily vase-Betta bowl
from "Mark Allen Wells"
| Message 1
Subject: Re: plumbing leaks
From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 01:01:45 -0700
Im smiling here
. everyone has told me that Bol wax
is wax to seal the
toilet, but what I stiiiiillll need to know is WHAT is
it!!!!?????
Is it a hhhm beeswax??
Ahmm
. petroleum wax,
Ahmmm whale fat??
What is it
.?? Please nobody tell me something to
plug my toilet
.or
Im gonna have a giggle.
Mike.
PS. I asked for the the same reasons Arlos is
saying
Arlos wrote:
>
> That (wax ring) is the nastiest stuff to get on your
hands. It's almost
> impossible to wash off. I honestly couldn't imagine
it to repair leaks on
> PVC ?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Schreiber
> To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
> Date: Saturday, July 28, 2001 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: plumbing leaks
>
> Mike its soft wax that is sold in rings to seal
toilets to bathroom
> floors so you don't get sewage on your floor when
you flush the toilet
> Bruce
--
><{{{*> Mike Barnett <*}}}><
JAMAICA, West Indies
| Message 2
Subject: Re: DO MESUREMENT
From: pablo obiaga
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 08:33:58 -0300
Thanks Mike
Something to think anout.
At 12:05 28/07/01 -0500, you wrote:
>There are a number of test kits available for DO.
Most for the test
>kits are based on modifications of the Winkler
titration method. Red
>Sea sell one for about $20, often available at your
local pet store.
>LaMotte makes a better one for about $35, Aquatic
Ecosystems and
>Stoney Creak carry it.
>
>The LaMotte one uses 4 dropper bottles and a powder.
It also has a
>direct reading dropper that reads ppm of DO as you do
it. Takes about
>3 to 4 min to take a reading.
>
>The bad side of test kits are the time it takes and
the accuracy.
>Well it's really not the accuracy so much as the
resolution of the
>test. That is you will know if your DO is 3ppm or
4ppm not that it is
>3.45ppm. In most cases that's all you really need to
know anyway. If
>it's at 3ppm you have problems I'm not sure it really
matters for
>most of use it it's 3.00ppm or 3.15ppm.
>
>They also can be more costly if you need to take a
lot of readings.
>Meters for the most part are a fixed one time cost no
mater how much
>you use it, up to a point. Test kits cost for each
test you take. I
>believe the Lamotte test kit will do something like
80 tests, that's
>say $0.45 a test less one you get to the refills for
the original
>kit. In a small system it would take a few years of
one test a day to
>cost more than the meter, but then your time is
always worth
>something.
>
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>>Hi All:
>> LAst time I was in BS Aires i looked for a DO
mter. They were
>>arround U$A
>>300.
>>I was wondering. When these techy devices didnt
exist. How did people
>>manage do know DO?
>>Isnt there a way, involving a chemical reaction and
perhaps some calculus
>>that can avoid such expenses in electronics?
>>
>>PAblo
>
>
| Message 3
Subject: Re: plumbing leaks
From: "Arlos"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 04:51:53 -0700
Mike,
Years ago it was made from bees wax, today it is
blended from synthetics
like urethane.
Arlos
-----Original Message-----
From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Date: Saturday, July 28, 2001 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: plumbing leaks
>Im smiling here
. everyone has told me that Bol wax
is wax to seal the
>toilet, but what I stiiiiillll need to know is WHAT
is it!!!!?????
>
>Is it a hhhm beeswax??
>
>Ahmm
. petroleum wax,
>Ahmmm whale fat??
>
>What is it
.?? Please nobody tell me something to
plug my toilet
.or
>Im gonna have a giggle.>
>Mike.
>
>PS. I asked for the the same reasons Arlos is
saying
>
>
>Arlos wrote:
>>
>> That (wax ring) is the nastiest stuff to get on
your hands. It's almost
>> impossible to wash off. I honestly couldn't imagine
it to repair leaks on
>> PVC ?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bruce Schreiber
>> To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
>> Date: Saturday, July 28, 2001 4:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: plumbing leaks
>>
>> Mike its soft wax that is sold in rings to seal
toilets to bathroom
>> floors so you don't get sewage on your floor when
you flush the toilet
>> Bruce
>
>--
> ><{{{*> Mike Barnett <*}}}><
> JAMAICA, West Indies
>
| Message 4
Subject: Re: Instrumentation
From: "Arlos"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 05:27:41 -0700
mark,
Though I use some Hanna instruments like the TDS/ pH
pocket meter it does
read slightly off from my Myron L TDS meter that is
used for dialing in
water conditioning equipment. For quick and dirty
reference, a less
expensive meter is fine but if critical and accurate
readings are needed.
Aside from installing full time monitoring equipment,
electrochemical
reading is the only way to go.There is a very good
instrument put out by
Hach in Colorado.
http://www.hach.com/Spec/sension156_overview.htm They
also
put together one of the finest field test kits for the
money. Kits using
test strips are subjective in interpretation. This is
why digital read outs
are far superior. Hach carries buffering solutions for
calibration.
As you remember from your waste treatment days,
influent, effluent and
water column depth all give different readings.
One thing true universal to virtually all battery
operated devices,"Toys
are made in Heaven but batteries were made in hell."
Arlos
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Allen Wells
To: Aquaponics
Date: Thursday, July 26, 2001 8:48 AM
Subject: Instrumentation
>Hi all,
>
> Has anyone used the "Water Test" meter from Hanna
>instruments?
>
>http://www.automatedaquariums.com/h_wtest.htm
>
>I am looking for a decent meter at a reasonable cost.
One
>thing I like about this one is it tests for PH, EC,
ORP, and temp
>all in one meter. At around $144.00 it would seem a
good value.
>Feedback on any other good meters is appreciated.
>
>Mark
>
| Message 5
Subject: rms
From: Ray Schneider
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 08:51:22 -0400
Barry's right if the voltage is expressed in RMS --
but if it's expressed as peak voltage what I said
applies. In either case the physiological experience
of being shocked may be
influenced by whether it is AC or DC since the one is
varying and the other isn't. If you are interested in
that sort of thing -- some voltages will cause your
muscles to spasm and throw
you off (not a pleasant experience) and others will
cause you to freeze on the source while it fries you
and actually causes anyone trying to free you to
freeze also. I'm not sure of the
exact voltage ranges although they are generally
available in texts that handle that sort of thing --
electrical safety.
I was interested in the idea that a low voltage (9V
was mentioned) that is connected to the blood stream
could kill you. I had not heard that before and while
it sounds plausible, I
wonder if there is a source one could view about it?
A current of a few milliamps through the heart is
enough to stop it and 9V through 2 Kohms across the
heart would do the trick
probably. Does that mean that a low voltage connected
through open cuts would zap you? Don't know.
--
Ray Schneider
rschneid 'at' shentel.net
On the Search for the PERFECT tomato.
Come See Me at:
http://www.user.shentel.net/rschneid
| Message 6
Subject: Re: plumbing leaks
From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 08:16:04 -0500
Mike,
Perhaps a search for a MSDS (Material Safety Data
Sheet) will tell
you. A good question, since some type of sealants can
be toxic to
fish
> Im smiling here
. everyone has told me that Bol wax
is wax to seal
the
> toilet, but what I stiiiiillll need to know is WHAT
is it!!!!?????
> Is it a hhhm beeswax??
> Ahmm
. petroleum wax,
> Ahmmm whale fat??
Adriana
| Message 7
Subject: Re: Greenwater sludge>>methane
From: kris book
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 08:27:11 -0600
Steve H,
Without going back to check it out, my memory says to
send a blank e-mail
to
digestionsubscribe 'at' crest.org .If that doesn't work,
let me know and I'll
go through my mailbox.
On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 17:51:32 -0700
dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com writes:
> Hurst, Steve ( China) wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
>
> > Where is the Digestion list Mike ?
> >
> > Steve H
>
> Its at CREST. digestion 'at' crest.org Kris posted a mail
how to get
> connected definetly
. past possible problems.>
> Mike.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Are you guys on the digestion list??
> >
> > Mike
>
> --
> ><{{{*> Mike Barnett <*}}}><
> JAMAICA, West Indies
>
| Message 8
Subject: RE: rms
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 09:32:05 -0500
>I was interested in the idea that a low voltage (9V
was mentioned)
that is connected to the blood stream could kill you.
I had not heard
that before and while it sounds plausible,
Ray,
The information came to me quite a while back from one
of those
safety alerts that circulates when an accident occurs
within
your industry. I will see if I can find more
information. In this
case, the way I understood it was the resistance the
skin provides
was largely taken out of the picture because of the
needles he
used as terminals for his meter penetrating the skin.
Once you are
below the skin, the saline nature of our body fluids
conducts
electricity very well
.which is basically what nerve
impulses
are
.tiny electrical signals. The current was just
enough to
cause his heart to fibrilate. The are some procedures
I have
performed where I try to follow the one hand rule and
use a tool
if I need another hand
with one hand, the circuit
path does
not cross your heart.
take care,
Mark
| Message 9
Subject: RE: Greenwater sludge>>methane
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 09:39:54 -0500
a blank message will get you there.
digestion-subscribe 'at' crest.org
I signed up last night and got the confirmation
message so it must have worked.
| Message 10
Subject: RE: rms
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 10:36:50 -0500
>I was interested in the idea that a low voltage (9V
was mentioned)
that is connected to the blood stream could kill you.
I had not heard
that before and while it sounds plausible,
Ray,
I had a thought about those nerve impulses I mentioned
while I was
out for my morning walk. When you stop to think that a
heart is
controlled electrically
.measurable in
millivolts
.it is very
plausible indeed that 9 volts could disrupt this if
resistance
was greatly reduced and the heart was directly in the
current path.
Anyhow, I don't think I will be conducting this
experiment any
time soon
.LOL.
have a good one,
Mark
| Message 11
Subject: Re: W.W. Grainger pumps?
From: "Sunpeer"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:14:46 -0400
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pump Please share =
that openly and we will all profit from your
experience>>>>
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business with limited =
resources and approved suppliers
usually items on
state bid.
I bought a 1/3 HP Grainger pump for a small NFT
(hydroponic) system and =
it lasted less than 2 months
. spilling oil into the
system with a loss =
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replaced the pump 3 =
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the application
=
but I'm in a "go fight city hall mentality" situation.
I am on vacation =
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inexpensive (NYS!) of =
course. Grainger has loads of pumps offered
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the legwork and =
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| Message 12
Subject: digestion-subscribe 'at' crest.org
From: Darren Pearce
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 14:03:18 -0400
Don't forget the (-) between "digestion" and
"subscribe".
Hence,
digestion-subscribe 'at' crest.org
thanks for all the great info guys and gals
peace
Darren
| Message 13
Subject: OT- Biogas list.
From: dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:25:36 -0700
Please someone shout "ready' when we all are in place
on the BIOGAS
list. I have just subscribed again too.Who volunteers
to jump in with
the questions over there??
--
><{{{*> Mike Barnett <*}}}><
JAMAICA, West Indies
| Message 14
Subject: Re: OT- Biogas list.
From: kris book
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 15:53:31 -0600
Mike,
You mean the digestion list, right
kris
On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:25:36 -0700
dreadlox 'at' cwjamaica.com writes:
> Please someone shout "ready' when we all are in
place on the BIOGAS
> list. I have just subscribed again too.Who
volunteers to jump in
> with
> the questions over there??
>
> --
> ><{{{*> Mike Barnett <*}}}><
> JAMAICA, West Indies
>
| Message 15
Subject: RE: Greenwater sludge>>methane
From: "Hurst, Steve ( China)"
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 06:57:57 +0800
Thanks Kris,
I hope to check this out today, so will let you know
if
it was succesfull,
Steve H
SNIP
Steve H,
Without going back to check it out, my memory says to
send a blank e-mail
to
digestionsubscribe 'at' crest.org .If that doesn't work,
let me know and I'll
go through my mailbox.
| Message 16
Subject: Lily vase-Betta bowl
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:12:11 -0500
Hi everyone,
I saw something really cool today. I took my
grandmother
to an openhouse being held for my great aunt's 80th
birthday.
Someone had given her a gift that drew LOTS of
attention. It
was a plant that looked like a member of the Lily
family in
a large, clear glass vase. The roots were growing down
into
the vase and a Betta was swimming all around them.
Nearly
everyone who saw it commented on it and the kids
couldn't stop
watching the fish. Naturally, I couldn't resist the
chance
to tie it into a discussion of aquaponics. My second
cousins are
all farmers and found it fascinating. I am sure the
flower
shop gets good money for them and it was so simple,
yet so
attractive. It made a great conversation piece. It
seemed
like a great promotional tool and something that could
be
marketed to flower shops
or even just an attractive
addition
to the home of any fish/plant nut
LOL.
mark
| Message 17
Subject: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
From: "Billy Miller"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:19:38 -0400
Hi,
The vases with bettas are cool - but don't count on it
to be
self-sufficient. If you don't feed the fish, it will
die. And the vase will
need to be cleaned every couple of weeks.
The lily that works best seems to be the "peace lily",
and everything can be
purchased for less than $12 to make.
Billy
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Reply-To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
To: "Aquaponics"
Subject: Lily vase-Betta bowl
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:12:11 -0500
Hi everyone,
I saw something really cool today. I took my
grandmother
to an openhouse being held for my great aunt's 80th
birthday.
Someone had given her a gift that drew LOTS of
attention. It
was a plant that looked like a member of the Lily
family in
a large, clear glass vase. The roots were growing down
into
the vase and a Betta was swimming all around them.
Nearly
everyone who saw it commented on it and the kids
couldn't stop
watching the fish. Naturally, I couldn't resist the
chance
to tie it into a discussion of aquaponics. My second
cousins are
all farmers and found it fascinating. I am sure the
flower
shop gets good money for them and it was so simple,
yet so
attractive. It made a great conversation piece. It
seemed
like a great promotional tool and something that could
be
marketed to flower shops
or even just an attractive
addition
to the home of any fish/plant nut
LOL.
mark
| Message 18
Subject: RE: digestion-subscribe 'at' crest.org
From: "Hurst, Steve ( China)"
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 07:28:56 +0800
Okay Guys, thanks for the help,
It worked out.
Blank Message, nothing in the subject line, got
subscribed in 15 minutes!
Steve H
-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Pearce [mailto:dpearce 'at' operamail.com]
Sent: 30 July 2001 02:03
To: aquaponics
Subject: digestion-subscribe 'at' crest.org
Don't forget the (-) between "digestion" and
"subscribe".
Hence,
digestion-subscribe 'at' crest.org
thanks for all the great info guys and gals
peace
Darren
| Message 19
Subject: RE: Lily vase-Betta bowl
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:32:18 -0500
Hi Billy,
I understand that. It wasn't that I saw it as true
aquaponics system
as much as a really neat way to promote it
start
conversations about
it. Thanks for the tip about the peace lily!
mark
-----
Hi,
The vases with bettas are cool - but don't count on it
to be
self-sufficient. If you don't feed the fish, it will
die. And the vase will
need to be cleaned every couple of weeks.
The lily that works best seems to be the "peace lily",
and everything can be
purchased for less than $12 to make.
Billy
| Message 20
Subject: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:15:28 -0500
For my dauughter's birthday yesterday I got her a Beta
in a goldfish
bowl. Instead of a Peace Lily hers has a gourmet
lettuce plant :>)
> was a plant that looked like a member of the Lily
family in
> a large, clear glass vase. The roots were growing
down into
> the vase and a Betta was swimming all around them.
Nearly
> everyone who saw it commented on it and the kids
couldn't stop
> watching the fish. Naturally, I couldn't resist the
chance
> to tie it into a discussion of aquaponics. My second
cousins are
> all farmers and found it fascinating.
| Message 21
Subject: swamp cooler
From: "Steven Medlock"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:59:28 -0500
I have been using a swamp cooler here in Missouri for
the last 4 weeks, It
seems to be hurting me more than helping. The
humidity is out of site. It
seems to be hard on the blooms.
Am I right about this?
Red
Steve
| Message 22
Subject: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
From: kris book
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:04:58 -0600
Mark,
And real nice gift for visitors, and good advertising.
kris
| Message 23
Subject: Re: swamp cooler
From: kris book
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:11:30 -0600
Steve
What's your max. temp. been lately?
kris
On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:59:28 -0500 "Steven Medlock"
writes:
> I have been using a swamp cooler here in Missouri
for the last 4
> weeks, It
> seems to be hurting me more than helping. The
humidity is out of
> site. It
> seems to be hard on the blooms.
> Am I right about this?
> Red
> Steve
>
>
| Message 24
Subject: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
From: "Arlos"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:15:18 -0700
Anyone sharp enough to realize the potential of this
as a lost leader item
for their business will see this as the, "CHIA PET"
replacement. It doesn't
have to be a perfect symbiotic realationship but it
gets the point across.
Good Hunting
-----Original Message-----
From: kris book
To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Cc: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Date: Sunday, July 29, 2001 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
>Mark,
>
>And real nice gift for visitors, and good
advertising.
>
>kris
>
| Message 25
Subject: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
From: Bertmcl 'at' aol.com
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:35:07 EDT
what is a Betta and how big is the vase?
thanks in advance.
bert
| Message 26
Subject: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
From: "Arlos"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:35:08 -0700
A Betta is a Siamese fighting fish and only one per
tank as they will tear
one another apart, particularly the males.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bertmcl 'at' aol.com
To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Date: Sunday, July 29, 2001 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
>what is a Betta and how big is the vase?
>
>thanks in advance.
>
>bert
>
| Message 27
Subject: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
From: "gerry magnuson"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:53:22 -1000
an entertaining idea, as one is to start ana
aquaponics system, and uses
goldfish or other cheap fish, once the system is ready
for tilapia or
whatever, they can utilize the goldfish is this
manner, along with their
first harvest of kale or lettuce
.coffeecowboy
>From: "Arlos"
>Reply-To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
>Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:35:08 -0700
>
>A Betta is a Siamese fighting fish and only one per
tank as they will tear
>one another apart, particularly the males.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bertmcl 'at' aol.com
>To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
>Date: Sunday, July 29, 2001 7:35 PM
>Subject: Re: Lily vase-Betta bowl
>
>
> >what is a Betta and how big is the vase?
> >
> >thanks in advance.
> >
> >bert
> >
>
| Message 28
Subject: Re: swamp cooler
From: "Steven Medlock"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:00:46 -0500
I have been seeing temps in the low 90s, which is
good with the 100 degree
weather here. The humidity is real high, My guage is
screwed up though, but
it is a drastic differance when I don't use it.
Red
----- Original Message -----
From: kris book
To:
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: swamp cooler
> Steve
>
> What's your max. temp. been lately?
>
> kris
>
>
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:59:28 -0500 "Steven Medlock"
> writes:
> > I have been using a swamp cooler here in Missouri
for the last 4
> > weeks, It
> > seems to be hurting me more than helping. The
humidity is out of
> > site. It
> > seems to be hard on the blooms.
> > Am I right about this?
> > Red
> > Steve
> >
> >
>
| Message 29
Subject: RE: Lily vase-Betta bowl
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:38:42 -0500
Anyone sharp enough to realize the potential of this
as a lost leader item
for their business will see this as the, "CHIA PET"
replacement. It doesn't
have to be a perfect symbiotic realationship but it
gets the point across.
Good Hunting
----
Arlos,
Remember my post about wanting to teach the kids?
When I saw a six
year old's eyes light up today
.when I saw my 80 year
old aunt proudly
talking about it being one of her gifts
.I new I
would be planting the
seeds of aquaponics in the grade schools and nursing
homes with these
simple, yet beautiful works of art. Can you imagine
the free publicity
generated by donating them?
*big grin
.I had a good Sunday*
Mark
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