Aquaponics Digest - Fri 08/03/01
Message 1: Re: nutrient content of duckweed
from dreadlox
Message 2: [Fwd: Re: [SOLAR] Air Conditioning]
from dreadlox
Message 3:
from "Carlos R. Arano"
Message 4: Re: spirulina
from "Attie Esterhuyse"
Message 5: Re: spirulina
from "gerry magnuson"
Message 6: Energized water
from "Tony Cooper"
Message 7: RE: Energized water
from "Mark Allen Wells"
Message 8: RE: Energized water
from "gerry magnuson"
Message 9: RE: Energized water
from "Mark Allen Wells"
Message 10: Sorry can't turn off HTML
from "Thomas Short"
Message 11: RE: Sorry can't turn off HTML
from "Mark Allen Wells"
Message 12: Slightly off-topic but fun - colored larvae for bait
from "gutierrez-lagatta"
Message 13: RE: Slightly off-topic but fun - colored larvae for bait
from "Mark Allen Wells"
Message 14: Re: Sorry can't turn off HTML
from "Thomas Short"
Message 15: Lily vase - Betta bowl
from "Mark Allen Wells"
Message 16: Re: PLease, turn off HTML
from kris book
Message 17: Re: PLease, turn off HTML
from "gerry magnuson"
Message 18: Re: Slightly off-topic but fun - colored larvae for bait
from "Laura Dalton"
Message 19: Re: PLease, turn off HTML
from "Thomas Short"
Message 20: Re: PLease, turn off HTML
from kris book
Message 21: Re: Please, turn off HTML
from Andrei Calciu
Message 22: Re: Please, turn off HTML
from "Brent Bingham"
Message 23: Re: Slightly off-topic but fun - colored larvae for bait
from (Bruce Schreiber)
Message 24: Re: Slightly off-topic but fun - colored larvae for bait
from "Brent Bingham"
Message 25: Re: Please, turn off HTML
from "Robert Rogers"
Message 26: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Thu 08/02/01
from DAVEINBHAM 'at' aol.com
Message 27: spirulina
from "Robert Rogers"
Message 28: Re: Slightly off-topic but fun - colored larvae for bait
from "gerry magnuson"
Message 29: virus attack
from "Robert Rogers"
Message 30: Re: bacterial soup
from "TGTX"
Message 31: Re:bacterial soup
from "TGTX"
Message 32: spirulina production
from "Robert Rogers"
Message 33: [Fwd: Fwd: assorted short courses and workshops]
from dreadlox
Message 34: Duckweed
from "TGTX"
Message 35: Re: spirulina production
from "Robert Rogers"
Message 36: Re: bacterial soup rangers
from dreadlox
Message 37: OT: Attachments
from dreadlox
Message 38: Re: Lily vase - Betta bowl
from "Dorothy Mann"
Message 39: maggot info
from "Mark Allen Wells"
Message 40: Re: Please, turn off HTML
from "Thomas Short"
Message 41: Re: PLease, turn off HTML
from "Thomas Short"
Message 42: RE: Please, turn off HTML
from Darren Pearce
Message 43: Color of bait
OT
from Darren Pearce
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| Message 1
Subject: Re: nutrient content of duckweed
From: dreadlox
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 03:34:51 -0700
Mark Allen Wells wrote:
>
> Here ya go!
>
> http://www.mobot.org/jwcross/duckweed/
>
> Click on the 'feed source' link. There is a list
> of articles
.one on nutritional value.
>
> Mark
--
See also
http://www.prism-usa.org/fulltext/duckweed/duckweed.htm
http://www.ntwgs.org/articles/illegalAquatics.html#giant duckweed
><{{{*> Mike Barnett <*}}}><
JAMAICA, West Indies
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| Message 2
Subject: [Fwd: Re: [SOLAR] Air Conditioning]
From: dreadlox
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 03:35:13 -0700
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Something you solar cooled aquaponic guys might be interested in.
><{{{*> Mike Barnett <*}}}><
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Cooling and solar powered refrigeration can also be accomplished through
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an MIT engineer with this type of solar heat driven application years
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Anyway, in a fit of enthusism, I set up a solar air conditioning list, the
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will be using the solar-ac list as a dump file, basically, to have a
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appearing on several disparate lists.
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| Message 3
Subject:
From: "Carlos R. Arano"
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:37:42 -0300
unsubscribe
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| Message 4
Subject: Re: spirulina
From: "Attie Esterhuyse"
Date: 3 Aug 2001 15:36:06 +0200
It is very easy to grow Spirulina and surely would be the cheapest if
one can grow it on farm. Apparently one can achieve a Spirulina growth
rate of around 15 g dry weight per square metre per day. The general
growth rate is in the region of 4 g dry weight per square metre per
day. This means that one can get a production of between 1.46 kg to
5.48 kg per square metre per year. With a food conversion ratio of 1.5
to 2, this means a fish production of 0.73 to 2.74 kg per year with the
2-conversion ratio.
It surely looks very impressive. I know that Spirulina can grow in
seawater. This would be ideal if one considers David’s e-mail on
seawater’s benefits. The Spirulina will bind the trace elements
biologically and make it available to the fish and us.
I am close to the sea and will run a test on Spirulina in seawater and
will keep you informed.
Attie
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| Message 5
Subject: Re: spirulina
From: "gerry magnuson"
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 03:56:20 -1000
what about freshwater algea
>From: "Attie Esterhuyse"
>Reply-To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
>To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
>Subject: Re: spirulina
>Date: 3 Aug 2001 15:36:06 +0200
>
>It is very easy to grow Spirulina and surely would be the cheapest if
>one can grow it on farm. Apparently one can achieve a Spirulina growth
>rate of around 15 g dry weight per square metre per day. The general
>growth rate is in the region of 4 g dry weight per square metre per
>day. This means that one can get a production of between 1.46 kg to
>5.48 kg per square metre per year. With a food conversion ratio of 1.5
>to 2, this means a fish production of 0.73 to 2.74 kg per year with the
>2-conversion ratio.
>
>It surely looks very impressive. I know that Spirulina can grow in
>seawater. This would be ideal if one considers David’s e-mail on
>seawater’s benefits. The Spirulina will bind the trace elements
>biologically and make it available to the fish and us.
>
>I am close to the sea and will run a test on Spirulina in seawater and
>will keep you informed.
>
>Attie
>
>
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| Message 6
Subject: Energized water
From: "Tony Cooper"
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:08:37 +0800
I have been doing a bit of research into "energised water" recently and it
looks worth studying more.
Among the claims that seem common to various commercial products are:
increases growth in plants animals and fish supresses algae growth and
"harmful bacteria"
Its the latter claim that i need more info on as supressing for example
nitrosomonas and nitrobacter is not exactly what i need.
Does anyone have any experience with any water energising devices other than
strapping a couple of magnets to the water pipe?
For more info on energised water an overview of some available technologies
is at Advanced Water Sciences website
http://www.mind.net/aware/water/water.htm
Also see
http://www.granderwater.com
http://www.aquatechnology.net/Catalystwater.html
For a totally passive water treatment using vortexes and quite beautiful too
see:
http://www.mullum.com.au/flowing/
http://flowforms.co.nz/flowforms.html
Enjoy
Tony Cooper
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| Message 7
Subject: RE: Energized water
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:35:58 -0500
Tony,
Do a search for Viktor Schauberger
.The water wizard.
His work on vortex energy was fascinating.
There is a lot of hype out there about magnets but
one company seems solid
.Magnetizer.
http://www.mundi.com/engone.html
I have been interested in bio-magnetism ever since reading
"Electromagnetism and the Foundation of Life"
by Dr. Robert Becker. I do know that I can alter water PH
slightly using strong magnets
.It can also affect
surface tension. I spent 11 years in water/wastewater
treatment and will always be fascinated by what we
still have to learn about water. Pi water is another
interesting area.
thanks for the links,
Mark
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| Message 8
Subject: RE: Energized water
From: "gerry magnuson"
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 04:49:18 -1000
aloha, mark
.some use to swear by magnets to increase germination, pouring
seeds through a magnet hoop
.with water, positive ions produce better use
and growth results, quarter inch of rain water is as efficient as 1 inch of
groundwater
.as I read an ad for an electrified foliar sprying system for
orchards verses regular air-spray, the adherance of chemiclas to the leaves
was like 70%, verses 20%, also meaning less need for the quantities to get
the desired results
.seems magnets and electrified water would bring more
'life' to the water for transport of nutrients and oxygen
.just throwin'
out ideas
>From: "Mark Allen Wells"
>Reply-To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
>
>Subject: RE: Energized water
>Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:35:58 -0500
>
>Tony,
>
>Do a search for Viktor Schauberger
.The water wizard.
>His work on vortex energy was fascinating.
>
>There is a lot of hype out there about magnets but
>one company seems solid
.Magnetizer.
>http://www.mundi.com/engone.html
>
>I have been interested in bio-magnetism ever since reading
>"Electromagnetism and the Foundation of Life"
>by Dr. Robert Becker. I do know that I can alter water PH
>slightly using strong magnets
.It can also affect
>surface tension. I spent 11 years in water/wastewater
>treatment and will always be fascinated by what we
>still have to learn about water. Pi water is another
>interesting area.
>
>thanks for the links,
>Mark
>
>
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| Message 9
Subject: RE: Energized water
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:58:40 -0500
>just throwin' out ideas
That's what this is all about, Gerry
not
just today's technology
.but the ideas that
will become tomorrow's. Thanks for the
interesting input.
Mark
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| Message 10
Subject: Sorry can't turn off HTML
From: "Thomas Short"
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:01:13 -0700
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| Message 11
Subject: RE: Sorry can't turn off HTML
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:26:49 -0500
I asked Microsoft about it and this is their answer:
----
Thomas,
Is that the only email client that will work with your
browser? I would think there are other options. Lots
of good free email stuff out there.
Mark
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| Message 12
Subject: Slightly off-topic but fun - colored larvae for bait
From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:30:07 -0500
Did anybody see the news item on The Learning Channel which showed the
guys fishing with bright multi-colored larvae? Apparently they add
dyes to the sawdust that the larvae are housed in and if they eat blue
sawdust, they turn blue. If they eat orange, they turn orange, etc.
I have no idea if it makes them more attractive to the fish as lures,
but it certainly is a great marketing gimmick!
Adriana
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| Message 13
Subject: RE: Slightly off-topic but fun - colored larvae for bait
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:00:20 -0500
Adriana,
I have seen the dyes they add to feed in some
of the fishing catalogues a buddy brings to work.
We were talking about it one day. He wasn't sure about
the real worms but has a huge assortment of different
colored plastic worms (those bass fishing guys and their
toys
.LOL) and he said some colors did work better than
others.
Mark
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| Message 14
Subject: Re: Sorry can't turn off HTML
From: "Thomas Short"
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:06:53 -0700
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Allen Wells
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:39 AM
To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Subject: RE: Sorry can't turn off HTML
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I asked Microsoft about it and this is their answer:
----
Thomas,
Is that the only email client that will work with your
browser? I would think there are other options. Lots
of good free email stuff out there.
MarkGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.=
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| Message 15
Subject: Lily vase - Betta bowl
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:14:53 -0500
Hi fish/plant friends,
The timing of my original post on this and what happened
last night was one of those things that make you say,
"what a coincidence!
or was it?"
I walked into wal-mart last night and they had just set
up a display of peace lilies. They also had a vase set
up with a betta but it was typical for wal-mart to use
cloudy water and a half dead fish
LOL. They had the
vases in the craft section. I think I will set one up
for my dining roon table tomorrow.
found this cool link for anyone interested in this.http://gardening.about.com/library/weekly/aa053100a.htm
have fun,
mark
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| Message 16
Subject: Re: PLease, turn off HTML
From: kris book
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:22:00 -0600
Thomas,
Since this HTML stuff is the only thing that seems to upset Paula, won't
you please consider setting up a free e-mail account just to handle this
list. There are many to choose from. I prefer Juno because, you don't
need to tie up your phone line while reading your mail. You just dial-up
your account and wait a couple of minutes to transfer your mail to your
mailbox, and then you have the use of your phone until you're ready to
send your outgoing mail, again that only takes one to two minutes.
Bluelight(Yahoo.com) is also cool because it's more than twice a fast to
delete unwanted messages. Only problem with Bluelight is you have to go
to K-Mart to pick up the CD.
kris
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| Message 17
Subject: Re: PLease, turn off HTML
From: "gerry magnuson"
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 09:53:40 -1000
hi uall, adrianna
.the colors are charted for fishing by time of day, some
swear by it, or tides and seasons
.marlin fishermen really get into colors
on the skirts of the lures
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| Message 18
Subject: Re: Slightly off-topic but fun - colored larvae for bait
From: "Laura Dalton"
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:12:56 -0500
Still off topic:
While living in England, saw a show on a huge maggot farm where they grew
maggots for the fisherman - seems they make very good fish bait. They too
were all different colors in large vats. They were packaged in pint sized
containers and all bait shops carried them. Seems you could start a "self
eating watermelon" by raising maggots, feed fish, harvest fish, clean fish,
start maggots etc
.on & on.
In all seriousness though, is the protein content high enough to be a viable
source for fish food?
Laura
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| Message 19
Subject: Re: PLease, turn off HTML
From: "Thomas Short"
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:24:16 -0700
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----- Original Message -----
From: kris book
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 1:54 PM
To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Cc: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Subject: Re: PLease, turn off HTML
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Thomas,
Since this HTML stuff is the only thing that seems to upset Paula, won't
you please consider setting up a free e-mail account just to handle this
list. There are many to choose from. I prefer Juno because, you don't
need to tie up your phone line while reading your mail. You just dial-up
your account and wait a couple of minutes to transfer your mail to your
mailbox, and then you have the use of your phone until you're ready to
send your outgoing mail, again that only takes one to two minutes.
Bluelight(Yahoo.com) is also cool because it's more than twice a fast to
delete unwanted messages. Only problem with Bluelight is you have to go
to K-Mart to pick up the CD.
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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 1:54 PM To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com Cc: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com Subject: Re: PLease, turn off HTML =
Thomas,
Since this HTML stuff is the only thing that seems to upse=
t Paula, won't
you please consider setting up a free e-mail account ju=
st to handle this
list. There are many to choose from. I prefer Juno b=
ecause, you don't
need to tie up your phone line while reading your ma=
il. You just dial-up
your account and wait a couple of minutes to tran=
sfer your mail to your
mailbox, and then you have the use of your phon=
e until you're ready to
send your outgoing mail, again that only takes=
one to two minutes.
Bluelight(Yahoo.com) is also cool because it's mo=
re than twice a fast to
delete unwanted messages. Only problem with Bl=
uelight is you have to go
to K-Mart to pick up the CD.
kris
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| Message 20
Subject: Re: PLease, turn off HTML
From: kris book
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:53:18 -0600
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