Aquaponics Digest - Thu 08/09/01
Message 1: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Wed 08/08/01
from marc
Message 2: Re: bacteria
from dreadlox
Message 3: Solar Cooling. from dreadlox
Message 4: Re: Fish data needed
from dreadlox
Message 5: Re: References
from dreadlox
Message 6: Re: FW: Maggot production technique
from dreadlox
Message 7: Screening to prevent pest insects, was Re: rose cuttings
from S & S Aqua Farm
Message 8: air and bacteria
from Ray Schneider
Message 9: Re: Adriana's New Thread
from "gutierrez-lagatta"
Message 10: Sea Solids?
from "Pete and Diana Scholtens"
Message 11: Re: Sea Solids?
from "Arlos"
Message 12: Need help with Feed!
from "Thomas Short"
Message 13: Re: References
from Arlus Farnsworth
Message 14: Re: Sea Solids?
from Arlus Farnsworth
Message 15: Re: References
from kris book
Message 16: Re: Solar Cooling. from kris book
Message 17: re: Electricity & air conditioning in one process
from Roy Houston
Message 18: Seed Quality and Price
from Elisheva Ruth
Message 19: Re: References
from "Thomas Short"
Message 20: Re: Need help with Feed!
from "KenHale"
Message 21: hybrid bluegill tank size
from "bennett"
Message 22: Re: hybrid bluegill tank size
from dreadlox
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| Message 1
Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Wed 08/08/01
From: marc
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 23:47:41 -0600
Greetings Becky,
Regarding the Sea Solids thing I suggest you contact the
USDA. The USDA has a charter to look into things like this.
The claims I read would immediately get it included on a
priority basis as any soil addendeum that performs like this
would sell by the train load after USDA approval and turn
the agricultural industry upside down.
Marc Nameth
Ark Valley Farms
Subject: Re: Re:GM tomato thrives on salt (fwd)
From: "Dorothy Mann"
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:14:47 -0500
Hi David
I feel I am too inexperienced to do such important research.
Please, someone
with experience- try this. It is important knowledge for us
all.
Becky Hines
----- Original Message -----
From: "dyarrow"
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Re:GM tomato thrives on salt (fwd)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dorothy Mann"
>
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Re:GM tomato thrives on salt (fwd)
> > Hi-
> > Is it possible to get a small amount of ' sea solids' to experiment
with?
> > Becky Hines
>
> in 1983, the year before he died, maynard murray sold his florida
hydroponics
> farm to don jansen, a mennonite wheat and buffalo farmer from nebraska.
don
> jansen has kept the business going ever since, but has become completely
> discouraged to find anyone interested in dr. murray's remarkable research
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| Message 2
Subject: Re: bacteria
From: dreadlox
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 00:55:32 -0700
Andrei Calciu wrote:
>
> Can the bacteria in the biofilter survive if the biofilter is submerged all
> the time?
>
> -_______________
> Andrei D. Calciu (VA-4270)
> NEC America, Inc.
> 14040 Park Center Dr.
> Herndon, VA 20171-3227
>
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>
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--
There are different types of Biofilter Andrei
. trickle filter,
submerged filter, updraft, downflow
. yes so there are filters that
reamin submerged and work. Bacteria can live underwater. There are some
folks who have aeration in their biofilters. As long as the bacteria
have some air, (some oxygen) they are fine.
A search for biofilter types will do U fine. I posted a link just in the
last 2 weeks which had a good overview on biofilter.
Mark same site U said U had copied. Can U help Andrei
. I need to
run
!!
Take care!
><{{{*> Mike Barnett <*}}}><
JAMAICA, West Indies
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| Message 3
Subject: Solar Cooling.From: dreadlox
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 01:50:46 -0700
--
Hey, there is a new list set up since we last spoke to deal with the
solar cooling thing at
. Im trying to kickstart it with the owner at
solar-ac 'at' yahoogroups.com
Have fun.
><{{{*> Mike Barnett <*}}}><
JAMAICA, West Indies
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| Message 4
Subject: Re: Fish data needed
From: dreadlox
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 01:50:54 -0700
Arlos wrote:
>
> Paula,
>
> Zero response from the group so far. I've talked with a few in southern
> California while I'm gone for the month of August. The intent is to gather
> information directly from producers as university studies are sometimes
> missing marketing information.
> Thanks for the response though.
>
> Arlos
--
Arlos,
Try doing a "ready to fill in" form, and see how that works. As my wife
is learning
. giving me a bulb and a stool is sometimes better in my
busy world to get a bulb changed than to ask
:):)
Fish farmers are busy people.
><{{{*> Mike Barnett <*}}}><
JAMAICA, West Indies
. .
| Message 5
Subject: Re: References
From: dreadlox
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 01:52:04 -0700
S & S Aqua Farm wrote:
> > And Mike has started a bookmarks site for us, but I don't know the > current
> status.
>
> S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
> Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
--
There's nothing stopping posting the site "as is" but my pride. I need
help to tag the bookmarks, but a lot of folks who promised initially
didnt chip in, so I tag along. There are thousands of bookmarks, and so
it takes time. If I werent such a "perfectionist" I would just post the
address as it is, and work ongoing.
sigh
.Kudo hungry people!!!
lol
><{{{*> Mike Barnett <*}}}><
JAMAICA, West Indies
. .
| Message 6
Subject: Re: FW: Maggot production technique
From: dreadlox
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 02:00:28 -0700
Mark Allen Wells wrote:
>
> Hi Gang,
>
> I just received this reply from Songhai Centre. I love it
> when I write a place so far away like that and they write back.
> The pics show nothing elaborate but I would happy to forward them
> to anyone who wants them.
Mark
.THIS post is what did it for me, and made my day!! Gets me all
excited
.lol.Thanks for posting your findings.
Please send the pics to me. I will post them on the site/page if that is
ok with you.
><{{{*> Mike Barnett <*}}}><
JAMAICA, West Indies
. .
| Message 7
Subject: Screening to prevent pest insects, was Re: rose cuttings
From: S & S Aqua Farm
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 06:46:39 -0500
At 10:58 AM 08/07/2001 -0500, Mark wrote:
>Is anyone starting rose cuttings hydroponically or
>aquaponically? I have read many are started that way.
>
>I am not a hybrid tea kind of guy but love the own
>root rugosas such Hansa, Rosa Rugosa Rubra, etc. Their
>rose hips are natures richest source of vitamin C. They
>grow great without chemicals
.only one problem
>the japanese beatles love their flowers as much as I do.
>Now if I could just get my bluegill to eat the beatles I
>would have something.
Mark, we've not started roses in our system, but understand it should be
easy to do -- at least according to those reports we've seen.
Are you planning to grow outside? We have had problems with Japanese
beetles in our outside garden, but never inside. We do have screening on
all greenhouse vents, and it definitely helps limit the pest insects you'll
have to deal with.
Paula
S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
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| Message 8
Subject: air and bacteria
From: Ray Schneider
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 07:35:41 -0400
The most recent digest had interesting messages from David Yarrow
praising bacteria and sea salt etc.
. and TGTX has demoted me from
king to merely major satrap (is that a small sandtrap) -- anyway I
thought I'd jabber a little about such things to demonstrate my total
ignorance.
One of the wonders of science was the development of the periodic table
which demonstrated, this is an over simplification, that all matter was
composed of something like 100 or so elements (there were later
discovered to be determined by the structure of their nucleus) and that
more complex materials were chemical combinations of these elements,
divided into inorganic elements and organic elements, the rich and huge
chemistry of carbon.
Now it is very unclear how life fits into all of this as David pointed
out. Regardless of how one proceeds, jabbering about evolution or about
creation -- the bottom line is that we don't understand life and its
relationship with non-life worth a darn. Each and every cell is a
marvel of exquisite design. The exact role that bacteria or other
microorganisms play in the symphony of life probably needs a lot more
study. It's useful to point out that something like 200 or so parts of
the human being were declared obsolete (vestigial hangovers from the
evolutionary process) by the early evolutionists and only discovered to
be useful later. Science has a habit of declaring its current
understanding the final understanding and then absorbing the discoveries
that overturn that view as if they never took it in the first place.
Thus phlogeston died as did the aether and so forth.
The sea salt thing seems to have a good deal of mysticism wrapped up in
it. Presumably the sea is salt because of the absorbption of all the
dissoluable surface and subsurface elements -- so the content of the sea
is a good measure of the soluable materials on the surface of the
earth. Given that life formed on the earth in the presence of this
distribution, it ought to surprise no-one that lifeforms reflect this
distribution. On the other hand, it's a bit of a stretch to then say
that it's optimum for life. There's a lot of baggage hidden in that
statement.
In my hydroponics hobbyist incarnation, I've seen little indication that
my veggies depend on a lot of bacteria -- although I think it may well
be that a lot of bacteria depend on my veggies -- the issue of course is
which came first the plants or the bacteria? Since bacteria are tiny
protoplants I suppose they must have come first. I think it would be
fascinating to have someone who really has studied the evolution of
plants to chat a little about it.
One thing that has fascinated me is the notion that different fish are
young or old in an evolutionary sense by their feeding habits. Tilapea
have been discribed to me as an ancient fish because they are apparently
vegetarians and each algae of which there seems to be no shortage. I'd
like to see this kind of thing summarized in an intelligable manner. It
seems like carniverous creatures can only develop after there is
something to carniverize and so forth -- so there is a logical structure
to the emergence of various kinds of life forms regardless of the
mechanism, as time goes on.
I am just thrilled to death with my jalepeno peppers -- I only have two
plants but they are sooooo
beautiful and taste soooo
good! I
took ten into work and people fell over themselves to snatch them up.
I don't quite know where I'd put fish. I really want to do some fish,
but they seem to require so much more care than plants that I'm afraid I
would not be a very responsible fish person -- feeding fish, monitoring
their environment -- if you don't do it right -- boom! floaters
everywhere. Also since I don't have a greenhouse or an environmentally
controlled building (other than my house) I'm not sure how to begin.
Any suggestions?
Meanwhile, nature is more wondrous than our science knows. We are still
discovering things about how this marvelous world works. We should try
real hard not to develop the hubris that because we understand a little,
therefore we understand it all.
Cheers, Ray
--
Ray Schneider
On the Search for the PERFECT tomato.
Come See Me at:
http://www.user.shentel.net/rschneid
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| Message 9
Subject: Re: Adriana's New Thread
From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:01:31 -0500
David,
About 2 years ago I did a comparison of prices from Johnny's vs. FEDCO
for all of the varieties I was using in my mesclun mix and FEDCO's
prices were higher on just about everything. It oculd be that, for
some varieties they are still repackaging Johnny's stuff rather than
sourcing their seed directly from suppliers or simply don't have the
volume to get the same price breaks. It pays to compare pricing.
> i get my seed from FEDCO
> federation of cooperatives in maine
Adriana
. .
| Message 10
Subject: Sea Solids?
From: "Pete and Diana Scholtens"
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:43:50 -0700
I'm a little perplexed by some of the statements about sea solids. Sounds
too much like snake oil. For example, the statement that human blood has the
same elements in the same ratios as sea water is false. The most common salt
in salt water and blood is sodium chloride. However, in sea water it's found
at anywhere from 25 to 35 parts per thousand. In blood it's at 9 parts per
thousand.
> also, be careful about terminologies. "salt" is a general term for ionic
> minerals, whereas it is sodium in table salt (sodium chloride) that
poisons
> plants (and animals). using table alt is definitely unwise. murray's sea
> solids are crude, raw, unrefined sea salts where all the elements are
present
> in correct proportion to the sodium. murray initially observed that human
> blood has the same elements in the same ratios as sea water, which piqued
his
> curiosity to look deeper into the phenomena that few ocean creatures
develop
> degenerative diseases that plague freshwater animals, including humans.
In addition, I seriously doubt the statement that few ocean creatures
develop degenerative diseases. If this is the case, then why do salmon
farmers have problems with diseases? Why are beluga whales dying in the Gulf
of St. Lawrence? The reason you and I see few wild animals at all with
degenerative diseases is because they get picked off. Survival of the
fittest. This is as preposterous as the ads selling shark cartilage for
cancer treatment. They proclaimed, "Have you seen a shark with cancer?" Of
course the average North American would say no. They could count the number
of sharks they've seen on their fingers.
Take care.
Pete Scholtens
Langley, BC
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| Message 11
Subject: Re: Sea Solids?
From: "Arlos"
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 08:35:35 -0700
Pete,
Actually about every fish we bring into the Monterey Bay Aquarium goes
through quarantine for 30 day to rid it of parasites (generally isopods in
the gills) during endoscopic procedures almost all have worms and several
appear to have some type of vascular problems.
Where are you located in BC? I'm toying with the idea of visiting salmon
farms in BC next summer. to gather info. I belong to the Monterey Bay Trout
and Salmon Project where we have a hatchery to reintroduce severely depleted
stocks into local rivers and creeks
On a note of shark cartilage used for cancer cures
. PT Barnum said it
best.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pete and Diana Scholtens
To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Date: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:40 AM
Subject: Sea Solids?
>I'm a little perplexed by some of the statements about sea solids. Sounds
>too much like snake oil. For example, the statement that human blood has
the
>same elements in the same ratios as sea water is false. The most common
salt
>in salt water and blood is sodium chloride. However, in sea water it's
found
>at anywhere from 25 to 35 parts per thousand. In blood it's at 9 parts per
>thousand.
>
>> also, be careful about terminologies. "salt" is a general term for ionic
>> minerals, whereas it is sodium in table salt (sodium chloride) that
>poisons
>> plants (and animals). using table alt is definitely unwise. murray's
sea
>> solids are crude, raw, unrefined sea salts where all the elements are
>present
>> in correct proportion to the sodium. murray initially observed that
human
>> blood has the same elements in the same ratios as sea water, which piqued
>his
>> curiosity to look deeper into the phenomena that few ocean creatures
>develop
>> degenerative diseases that plague freshwater animals, including humans.
>
>In addition, I seriously doubt the statement that few ocean creatures
>develop degenerative diseases. If this is the case, then why do salmon
>farmers have problems with diseases? Why are beluga whales dying in the
Gulf
>of St. Lawrence? The reason you and I see few wild animals at all with
>degenerative diseases is because they get picked off. Survival of the
>fittest. This is as preposterous as the ads selling shark cartilage for
>cancer treatment. They proclaimed, "Have you seen a shark with cancer?" Of
>course the average North American would say no. They could count the number
>of sharks they've seen on their fingers.
>
>Take care.
>Pete Scholtens
>Langley, BC
>
>
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| Message 12
Subject: Need help with Feed!
From: "Thomas Short"
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 08:29:24 -0700
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| Message 13
Subject: Re: References
From: Arlus Farnsworth
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 08:41:36 -0700
You can make a looping ms-word visual basic macro that will process the entire list
into your html
. you start with a list of bookmarks and you get html code out of
it. You will have to pay attention to the way you keep your starting information,
because it has to be consistent or the automatic process might fail, or the work
involved in interpreting the information would make development of automation
prohibitive.
If you are interested, perhaps I can be of assistance. For instance, it would take
me about 15-20 minutes to develop such a script, being of a straightforward process
and format. Then you could use it whenever you want and just cut and paste the
header and footer portions of the html from a template file
. just another file
serving as the template for the header and footer. If you wanted to get really
fancy, you could have user buttons that automatically generate the document with
various options, but that is outside my scope of participation.
dreadlox wrote:
> S & S Aqua Farm wrote:
> > > And Mike has started a bookmarks site for us, but I don't know the > current
> > status.
> >
> > S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-5124
> > Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
>
> --
> There's nothing stopping posting the site "as is" but my pride. I need
> help to tag the bookmarks, but a lot of folks who promised initially
> didnt chip in, so I tag along. There are thousands of bookmarks, and so
> it takes time. If I werent such a "perfectionist" I would just post the
> address as it is, and work ongoing.
>
> sigh
.Kudo hungry people!!!
lol
>
> ><{{{*> Mike Barnett <*}}}><
> JAMAICA, West Indies
. .
| Message 14
Subject: Re: Sea Solids?
From: Arlus Farnsworth
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 09:03:48 -0700
Probably is ratio of elements to other elements, not including hydrogen and
oxygen (water).My understanding is that blood is very similar to the sea at the time animals
emerged from the water.
Seems to me that the level of blood salinity would be more related to organic
limits of respiration.
Don't know about the disease or health factor of fresh vs saltwater organisms, I
have caught lots of fish with those gill parasites from the ocean, some spots
hold more parasites than others as far as I've noticed and heard.
One other thing I've heard is that andromodous fish, or at least in the case of
sacramento delta striper, are rid of the gill parasites after returning from
spawning in freshwater.
>From this I surmise that any creature who can tolerate various extremes will
benefit from the transitions.
And that I am overdue at the local sweat lodge.
Pete and Diana Scholtens wrote:
> I'm a little perplexed by some of the statements about sea solids. Sounds
> too much like snake oil. For example, the statement that human blood has the
> same elements in the same ratios as sea water is false. The most common salt
> in salt water and blood is sodium chloride. However, in sea water it's found
> at anywhere from 25 to 35 parts per thousand. In blood it's at 9 parts per
> thousand.
>
> > also, be careful about terminologies. "salt" is a general term for ionic
> > minerals, whereas it is sodium in table salt (sodium chloride) that
> poisons
> > plants (and animals). using table alt is definitely unwise. murray's sea
> > solids are crude, raw, unrefined sea salts where all the elements are
> present
> > in correct proportion to the sodium. murray initially observed that human
> > blood has the same elements in the same ratios as sea water, which piqued
> his
> > curiosity to look deeper into the phenomena that few ocean creatures
> develop
> > degenerative diseases that plague freshwater animals, including humans.
>
> In addition, I seriously doubt the statement that few ocean creatures
> develop degenerative diseases. If this is the case, then why do salmon
> farmers have problems with diseases? Why are beluga whales dying in the Gulf
> of St. Lawrence? The reason you and I see few wild animals at all with
> degenerative diseases is because they get picked off. Survival of the
> fittest. This is as preposterous as the ads selling shark cartilage for
> cancer treatment. They proclaimed, "Have you seen a shark with cancer?" Of
> course the average North American would say no. They could count the number
> of sharks they've seen on their fingers.
>
> Take care.
> Pete Scholtens
> Langley, BC
. .
| Message 15
Subject: Re: References
From: kris book
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:13:53 -0600
Mike,
I have some spare time but, I'm not sure how much help I can be, I
touched a computer for the first time a little over a year ago. Even the
"PCs for Dummies" book is over my head.
kris
. .
| Message 16
Subject: Re: Solar Cooling.From: kris book
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:07:50 -0600
Mike,
If you are reading my mind, go ahead it's a short story. Actually, I
joined that list yesterday.
kris
> --
> Hey, there is a new list set up since we last spoke to deal with
> the
> solar cooling thing at
.
. .
| Message 17
Subject: re: Electricity & air conditioning in one process
From: Roy Houston
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 11:16:09 -0500
Ted and all:
This is not really all that new of a technological concept. Back when I was
in college at NCSU this was explored rather in depth, even to the point that
the lead professor researching the concept had our class produce an
engineering paper on the process (he was trying to see if someone might
offer a lead that helped them past a few stumbling blocks, as they had
reached a standstill -- it didn't).
In the end, the technology was termed innovative, but difficult to implement
because of numerous technical hurdles. Surprisingly the largest was the
inability to stop leaks in the system. This after exhausting what I seem to
recall was a $2.5 million grant on the program.
While I don't want to sound discouraging, and I hope Yogi does succeed in
the end, I believe this will end up at a dead end, just as in the past.
Roy
>Yogi Goswami has a few questions for homeowners worried about high
>electricity bills this summer.>
>The device uses heat to boil a mix of ammonia and water. Even under
>intense pressure, the ammonia vaporizes at temperatures as low as 150
>degrees Fahrenheit, versus upward of 500 degrees for water alone
. .
| Message 18
Subject: Seed Quality and Price
From: Elisheva Ruth
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 12:39:45 +0000
It absolutely pays to compare prices and quality
for mesclun and all varieties.
Seed prices depend on variety, size and organic vs conventional,
or multinational vs local source.
There can be between 20 to 30 varieties in the mesclun mixes.
For large quantities Johnys is generally cheaper.
For smaller quantities FEDCO is cheaper.
The ingredients in each company's mixes vary -
some are of higher quality than others.
Its like comparing prices of apples and oranges.
It not the same thing!
Johnny's prepackaged mixes are definately cheaper,
but the quantity of ingredients vary.
There are many factors in lettuce seed -
ie Is the seed resistant to lettuce mosaic ?
Seeds that are not tested to lettuce mosaic are less expensive.
How does each variety taste?
Many farmers make their own mesclum mix
by selecting their preferred varieties.
FEDCO does not repack mesulan items from Johnnys.
FEDCO buys no more than 5 items from Johnny's out over
800 varieties offered. Varieties such as bright lights chard,
(which is repackaged from Johnny's) can be added by the farmer
to enhance a mesclum mix.
There is an additional aspect -
FEDCO is a 60 % consumer and 40 % worker cooperative that
share respectively in all profits !
Kindly,
Eli
> From: "
> From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
> Reply-To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:01:31 -0500
>
> Subject: Re: Adriana's New Thread
>
> David,
> About 2 years ago I did a comparison of prices from Johnny's vs. FEDCO
> for all of the varieties I was using in my mesclun mix and FEDCO's
> prices were higher on just about everything. It oculd be that, for
> some varieties they are still repackaging Johnny's stuff rather than
> sourcing their seed directly from suppliers or simply don't have the
> volume to get the same price breaks. It pays to compare pricing.
>> i get my seed from FEDCO
>> federation of cooperatives in maine
>
> Adriana
>
>
>
. .
| Message 19
Subject: Re: References
From: "Thomas Short"
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:49:23 -0700
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Check out this! It is one of my Web sites. I use Notepad to make web page=
s this will show you how. Don't mind the first page it's my son's Idea ju=
st go to the bottom and click on ENTER.
http://www.crosswinds.net/~thomaslshort/tomsweb/
of try this one it is the same but on the west cost. The first one is on =
a server in Canada.
http://tomsweb.50megs.com/
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----- Original Message -----
From: Arlus Farnsworth
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 8:45 AM
To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com
Subject: Re: References
=20
You can make a looping ms-word visual basic macro that will process the e=
ntire list
into your html
. you start with a list of bookmarks and you get html cod=
e out of
it. You will have to pay attention to the way you keep your starting info=
rmation,
because it has to be consistent or the automatic process might fail, or t=
he work
involved in interpreting the information would make development of automa=
tion
prohibitive.
If you are interested, perhaps I can be of assistance. For instance, it w=
ould take
me about 15-20 minutes to develop such a script, being of a straightforwa=
rd process
and format. Then you could use it whenever you want and just cut and past=
e the
header and footer portions of the html from a template file
. just anoth=
er file
serving as the template for the header and footer. If you wanted to get r=
eally
fancy, you could have user buttons that automatically generate the docume=
nt with
various options, but that is outside my scope of participation.
dreadlox wrote:
> S & S Aqua Farm wrote:
> > > And Mike has started a bookmarks site for us, but I don't know the =
> current
> > status.
> >
> > S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 65775 417-256-=
5124
> > Web page http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/
>
> --
> There's nothing stopping posting the site "as is" but my pride. I need
> help to tag the bookmarks, but a lot of folks who promised initially
> didnt chip in, so I tag along. There are thousands of bookmarks, and so
> it takes time. If I werent such a "perfectionist" I would just post the
> address as it is, and work ongoing.
>
> sigh
.Kudo hungry people!!!
lol
>
> ><{{{*> Mike Barnett <*}}}><
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Check out this=
! It is one of my Web sites. I use Notepad to make web pages this will sh=
ow you how. Don't mind the first page it's my son's Idea just go to the b=
ottom and click on ENTER. of try this one it is the same but on the west cost. The =
first one is on a server in Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlus Farnsworth Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001=
8:45 AM To: aquaponics 'at' town=
sqr.com Subject: Re: Referen=
ces You can make a looping ms-word visual basic ma=
cro that will process the entire list into your html
. you start with=
a list of bookmarks and you get html code out of it. You will have to=
pay attention to the way you keep your starting information, because =
it has to be consistent or the automatic process might fail, or the work<=
BR>involved in interpreting the information would make development of aut=
omation prohibitive. If you are interested, perhaps I can be of ass=
istance. For instance, it would take me about 15-20 minutes to develop=
such a script, being of a straightforward process and format. Then yo=
u could use it whenever you want and just cut and paste the header and=
footer portions of the html from a template file
. just another file serving as the template for the header and footer. If you wanted to get =
really
fancy, you could have user buttons that automatically generate =
the document with
various options, but that is outside my scope of par=
ticipation.
dreadlox wrote:
> S & S Aq=
ua Farm wrote:
> > > And Mike has started a bookmarks site fo=
r us, but I don't know the > current
> > status.
> >=
> > S&S Aqua Farm, 8386 County Road 8820, West Plains, MO 6=
5775 417-256-5124
> > Web page http://www.townsqr.co=
m/snsaqua/
>
> --
> There's nothing stopping posting th=
e site "as is" but my pride. I need
> help to tag the bookmarks, bu=
t a lot of folks who promised initially
> didnt chip in, so I tag a=
long. There are thousands of bookmarks, and so
> it takes time. If =
I werent such a "perfectionist" I would just post the
> address as =
it is, and work ongoing.
>
> sigh
.Kudo hungry people!!!
=
lol
>
> ><{{{*> Mike Barnett <*}}}>&=
lt;
> JAMAICA, West Indies
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Subject: Re: Need help with Feed!
From: "KenHale"
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:19:33 -0500
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contact Dr. Kevin Fitzsimmons/U. of AZ 520/626-3324. He might be =
able to give you a lead. Ken Hale (Boatcycle Fish Farm Supply)
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Thomas Short=20
To: aquaponics=20
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:29 AM
Subject: Need help with Feed!
I live in Tucson Arizona. I have called every feed suppler in AZ. None =
of them have any kind of fish food! I have to order it from out of =
state. By the time I get it the freight cost is as much as the feed =
price! When I was in the PI they were feeding Tilapia rice bran.
I can get brown rice cheaper than I can order feed. Will this work as =
feed?
I can get Rabbit food here Will this work?
Does anyone have suggestions?=20
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I live in Tucson Arizona. I have called every feed suppler in AZ. =
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I can get brown rice cheaper than I can order feed. Will this =
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feed?
I can get Rabbit food here Will this work?
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