Aquaponics Digest - Sun 09/09/01



Message   1: And on the positive side, here's some Ag Links
             from "TGTX" 

Message   2: algae eating tilapia off flavor?
             from Carolyn Hoagland 

Message   3: wide brush alert!
             from Carolyn Hoagland 

Message   4: Re: wide brush alert!
             from Mick 

Message   5: Freshwater Tuna & shark
             from "Frank Stancato" 

Message   6: Re: wide brush alert!
             from "gerry magnuson" 

Message   7: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Sat 09/08/01
             from "TGTX" 

| Message 1                                                           
Subject: And on the positive side, here's some Ag Links
From:    "TGTX" 
Date:    Sun, 9 Sep 2001 05:59:52 -0500

There is hope, folks.

The incredible blessings, privledges, and miracles given us in the form of
the stewardship of our soil, our land, our natural resources, and our
agricultural and family heritage, can live on and be passed to the next
generations, if they will take the challenge, and if they are taught to see
the values in these precious gifts, IMHO.
Read on.  Hope you find an Ah ha! in these links and ideas somewhere.

_________
Check out the website of the Beginning Farmer Center:

 http://www.extension.iastate.edu/pages/bfc/

Farm On is a service to help preserve the family farm business by matching
beginning farmers who do not own land, with retiring farmers who do not have
heirs to continue the family farm business. Nearly 90 matches have been made
since 1992. A joint project with the Iowa Department of Agriculture and Land
Stewardship, Farm On has files of 600 potential beginning farmers and 90
landowners. One-day seminars throughout the state attract 200 participants
each year.

Development of the Farm Savvy manual has been another major Center activity.
The 200 page manual outlines a process for the transition of a farm business
to the succeeding generation. It's intended to be used by vocational
agriculture teachers, community college instructors, and extension staff to
present programs for new farmers or those who wish to transfer a farming
operation to another person. The manual is available for $50 from your local
extension office or you may order it from ISU Publication Distribution.

Two videotapes have also been developed, one titled The Beginning Farmer and
the second Farm On: Your Best Choice. The Beginning Farmer video introduces
a lender, an attorney, an extension farm management specialist, a retiring
farmer and the young couple he's decided to bring into his hog business. The
second video, Farm On: Your Best Choice, tells the tale of two farmers who
took different paths to retirement. One farmer worked his land until he and
his wife decided it was time to head for greener pastures, not realizing
that they would pay a great price to taxes plus a feeling they were losing
the identity the farm had given them. The second farmer and his wife opt for
a slow, gradual transition of their machinery and land to a young couple.
They take part in the farm through a program operated by ISU Extension and
through careful planning gain huge tax incentives. They also gain a feeling
that they are passing the torch to a new generation. Both of these videos
can be checked out from your local extension Farm Management Specialist,
Farm On Associate, or by contacting Loren Book.

________

Here is a photo essay of a family building a hoop house for their pigs.
Maybe you could build some like it for your fish barn, and maybe use 2
layers of 15 mil translucent, fiber reinforced poly in lieu of the opaque
gray tarp shown in this method:
http://www.pfi.iastate.edu/hoop/hoop_page_1.htm  This charming photo essay
of a farm family project was found at the sustainable farming connection,
which will keep you busy for hours in the research and inspiration mode.
Take the extreme stuff with a grain of salt, soak in the practical advise.
Gotta learn to sort the compost from the candy, or the gems from the guano,
if you know what I mean, folks.
http://helios.oit.unc.edu/farming-connection/index.html  Overall, tho' I
give it a thumbs up.
_

How about selling value added products from your farm and or greenhouse?
Here's a little introduction to the notion:
http://www.uwex.edu/ces/agmarkets/starting.html
_

And finally, you may need a few days to explore the landscape and links at
the Agrisurf site:
http://www.agrisurf.com/agrisurfscripts/agrisurf.asp?index=_25 , including
220 sites for aquaculture alone, and 54 sites for products and services.
Again, I advise you to beware and be discerning. Lots of stuff out there
with a green veneer but a Red content, rolled in like a Trojan Horse.
"Separate the wheat from the chaff.  I feel like I owe it to someone".
__

Blessings.  Keep on Rockin, y'all.

Ted

| Message 2                                                           
Subject: algae eating tilapia off flavor?
From:    Carolyn Hoagland 
Date:    Sun, 09 Sep 2001 10:27:23 -0500

Jim Wrote>
>This, of course, is not a good solution as tilapia that eat significant 
>quantities of algae develop an off-flavor.

How does UVI handle that?  From their website, it looks like their
fish are swimming in green sludge?  They sell a lot of fish (to repeat
customers), so I can't image they taste bad.Carolyn

| Message 3                                                           
Subject: wide brush alert!
From:    Carolyn Hoagland 
Date:    Sun, 09 Sep 2001 11:59:05 -0500

Ted Wrote>
>We all know that the only world that is worth living in 
>is one that is absolutely devoid of risk, right? 

Well most days I find myself squarely in the camp of the radical
environmentalists.  And I have to say that making a risk free (or
reduced risk) world has never entered my mind.  I tend to lean in the
opposite direction.  Me thinks you paint with a brush way too wide

I think that some versions of aquaponics may provide my family with 
an inexpensive and sustainable way to eat. (And if I can learn the 
ropes through small systems, maybe I can scale up and earn a living 
at it too)

Carolyn

| Message 4                                                           
Subject: Re: wide brush alert!
From:    Mick 
Date:    Sun, 09 Sep 2001 12:27:31 -0500

Carolyn Hoagland wrote:

> Well most days I find myself squarely in the camp of the radical
> environmentalists.  And I have to say that making a risk free (or
> reduced risk) world has never entered my mind.  I tend to lean in the
> opposite direction.  Me thinks you paint with a brush way too wide

----

Carolyn,

I've been hesitant to say so on the list, but I'm an enviromental wacko as
well.  I've even been known to tree-sit and park my butt in front of
bulldozers.  It's often a futile effort in a battle with wealthy
developers but I gotta try.

Run for cover, Carolyn
 we're both gonna get flamed now!
Mick

>
>

| Message 5                                                           
Subject: Freshwater Tuna & shark
From:    "Frank Stancato" 
Date:    Sun, 9 Sep 2001 14:15:12 -0400

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Anyone tried the freshwater tuna and how does it taste as compared to =
the saltwater variety? What about fresh water shark.

I have been having trouble at finding anything on the web, maybe too =
tired from getting home from juniors first football game of the season.

Thanks in advance for the help.
Frank

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I have been having trouble at finding anything on the web, maybe = too tired=20 from getting home from juniors first football game of the season.
 
Thanks in advance for the help.
Frank
=_NextPart_000_009D_01C13939.D6BB4200-- | Message 6 Subject: Re: wide brush alert! From: "gerry magnuson" Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 15:29:38 -1000 stupid is as stupid does, one may admire your courage, but one can't say much for your judgement .cowboy >From: Mick >Reply-To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com >To: aquaponics 'at' townsqr.com >Subject: Re: wide brush alert! >Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 12:27:31 -0500 > > > >Carolyn Hoagland wrote: > > > Well most days I find myself squarely in the camp of the radical > > environmentalists. And I have to say that making a risk free (or > > reduced risk) world has never entered my mind. I tend to lean in the > > opposite direction. Me thinks you paint with a brush way too wide > >---- > >Carolyn, > >I've been hesitant to say so on the list, but I'm an enviromental wacko as >well. I've even been known to tree-sit and park my butt in front of >bulldozers. It's often a futile effort in a battle with wealthy >developers but I gotta try. > >Run for cover, Carolyn we're both gonna get flamed now! >Mick > > > > > > > > | Message 7 Subject: Re: Aquaponics Digest - Sat 09/08/01 From: "TGTX" Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 23:35:47 -0500 > Ted: > Now don't get your shorts in a twist, but just got through reading your > dissertation on copper and Bordeaux (hmmm, should probably cut down on the > vino), while enjoying a great cool morning here in MO. Your message was > immediately followed by my "Word of the Day" which was: > > verbiage \VER-bee-ij\ (noun) > *1 : a profusion of words usually of little or obscure content > 2 : manner of expressing oneself in words : diction > > What a hoot!!! Almost as bad as the one about the group therapy students > (agoraphobia & paranoia) who were instructed to watch a TV show which was > immediately followed by the opener to "The Outer Limits do not adjust > your TV set etc.> > Keep on truckin' Ted - It's always interesting and every once in a while I > understand something. > > Laura "A great cool mornin' here in Missouri" . Wow .that is .lyrical Thanks for that line. With your permission, Ms. Laura, I would use that in a fine song God, that is just beautiful .I am now in a Missouri State of Mind for the Moment. Well, then, I WILL just keep on truckin' with it, thanks to your fine prescription. I'm outta here. Ted

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