Aquaponics Digest - Fri 10/05/01
Message 1: RE: Question regarding grow beds
from "Big George"
Message 2: Re:Nilo Nancita Message had a Virus
from "Hurst, Steve ( China)"
Message 3: RE: Question regarding grow beds
from "Hurst, Steve ( China)"
Message 4: Re: Question regarding grow beds
from "Dorothy Mann"
Message 5: Re: Kang kong
from Ian Franzmann
Message 6: Re:
from "Brent Bingham"
Message 7: To my friends Brent and kris
from "Mark Allen Wells"
Message 8: honda multi-fuel generator
from "Mark Allen Wells"
Message 9: Re: honda multi-fuel generator
from "Brent Bingham"
Message 10: Re: Kang kong
from "STEVE SPRING"
Message 11: Re: Kang kong
from "STEVE SPRING"
Message 12: Re: Kang kong - water spinach
from "STEVE SPRING"
Message 13: Re: Pacu and Paroon shark-Test Kits
from "STEVE SPRING"
Message 14: Re: Kang kong
from "bennett"
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Subject: RE: Question regarding grow beds
From: "Big George"
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 04:45:19 -0400
All:
I am new to this thread (a little under 2 weeks now) but just wanted to warn
everyone that the last email that I just got from this message ring was from
(nilancita@centtel.com) was infected with a very nasty virus. Fortunately
my virus program caught it (I work for a computer software company and were
shutdown by the nimda virus and we have protection, goes to show you,
protection doesn't always work). Those of you that did not notice this, I
suggest you get a virus program and clean your computer. The subject matter
was re: Kang kong . It was the very last email I received from this
discussion ring.
Your newbie,
Big George
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Subject: Re:Nilo Nancita Message had a Virus
From: "Hurst, Steve ( China)"
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:53:58 +0800
Folks,
This message had a Virus. Our Corporate Virus protection caught it and
deleted it,
along with teh message, so I dont know what virus it was.
Steve H
-----Original Message-----
From: Nilo Lancita [mailto:nilancita@centtel.com]
Sent: 05 October 2001 11:06
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
Subject: Re: Kang kong
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email-body is removed from here because it contains a virus.
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Subject: RE: Question regarding grow beds
From: "Hurst, Steve ( China)"
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:58:50 +0800
I tried one bed on the ground, but had a problem with red ants.
Very difficult to control them, and they were cutting the plants to
peices. At waist height, mounted on steel beams, I have managed to control
them
although they sometimes break through my defences.
Steve H
N.Luzon, Philippines
SNIP
My outdoor grow beds were placed waist high for convience, since I was
basicaly working with cut flowers I thought that would be a good heigth,.
was
I wrong the beds were too high or I was too short,I used a ladder to cut
most
of the blooms and that was a job. when I move into the GH I plan to have
beds
almost on the ground.I would rather bend over to sow the seeds that use a
ladder for harvest.
Bert McLaughlin
New Kent, VA
23 miles east of Richmond & 37 miles west of Williamsburg.
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Subject: Re: Question regarding grow beds
From: "Dorothy Mann"
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 08:16:52 -0500
Hi-
Also you may go to
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.nimda.a@mm.html
for more information.
There is a microsoft patch . Quote from symsntee " If you visit a
compromised Web server, you will be prompted to download an .eml (Outlook
Express) email file, which contains the worm as an attachment. You can
disable "File Download" in your Internet Explorer internet security zones to
prevent this compromise."
Take care-
Becky Hines
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From: "Big George"
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:45 AM
Subject: RE: Question regarding grow beds
> All:
>
> I am new to this thread (a little under 2 weeks now) but just wanted to
warn
> everyone that the last email that I just got from this message ring was
from
> (nilancita@centtel.com) was infected with a very nasty virus. Fortunately
> my virus program caught it (I work for a computer software company and
were
> shutdown by the nimda virus and we have protection, goes to show you,
> protection doesn't always work). Those of you that did not notice this, I
> suggest you get a virus program and clean your computer. The subject
matter
> was re: Kang kong . It was the very last email I received from this
> discussion ring.
>
> Your newbie,
>
> Big George
>
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Subject: Re: Kang kong
From: Ian Franzmann
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 23:48:04 +1000
Hi All
Just recieved the following:
Take care Email Script virus detected by Nortons Anti Virus.
Email from Nilo Lancita Re: Kang Kong
At 11:05 PM 10/4/01 -0400, you wrote:
>
> This file: "Unknown0ebe.data" was infected with the: "WScript.KakWorm.dr"
> virus. The file was quarantined by Norton AntiVirus. Friday, October 05,
2001
> 23:41
Dont open this attachment.
Ian
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Subject: Re:
From: "Brent Bingham"
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 07:58:48 -0700
Kris,
The only reason I responded is due to the fact you posted your opinion to
the list. You do not know who I am or where I or some of my family members
have served or now serve. Please do not patronize me. My brothers work in a
room under the white house that does not exist.
there is a base jest south our ranch that we have worked at for years. It
trains and has trained some of us for years in languages we use in places
out side of the US. There is a lot going on most do not know and there is a
lot we know about that a liberal democrat controlled congress would do
nothing about for years. Bob Mc... my step brother lost an eye in the middle
east 26 months ago getting a report on one of the groups who did not get
there target in D.C. this week, he did report very accurately how they
almost got it. If you want to share you crap on list go for it. I will share
mine. Two weeks ago I tried to tell the list as much as can be said. Now I
will say it to you. Start storing things you cannot produce. You now most of
the rest do not have the stomach to stop what is going to take place. There
is a time table that was turned over as part of a report from over two
years ago.
The ":they" are only a few days off of there schedule.
If I am wrong you will only be out a little money for food
and things you will use any way. If I am right I have washed my soul of any
responsibility to warn my neighbor
as the Good Book says. What do you have to loose?
Good luck
Brent
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From: "kris book"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 5:10 PM
> Brent,
>
> If I had known that you really believe the crap that Rush, Ollie, and Fox
> push on the population of this great country, I would have never tried to
> talk with you on any political subject. I do hope you're right about
> killing our way to a peaceful existence but, since we've been the world's
> police department and things have only become more violent, I doubt
> things will change.
>
> You really should post your shingle before you make such a diagnosis
> about my PTSD but, then that's what Rush and Ollie do when confronted
> with data they don't want to open a discussion on, they attack somewhere
> else.
>
> Look Brent, you do a lot of good on the aquaponics list so I'm willing to
> let this drop but, do yourself a favor and stop telling me what's wrong
> with me. You don't have a clue as to who I am. I am honest, truthful, and
> I have enough courage for both of us. I will make one observation about
> you, you know one hell of a lot more about hog farms, practical
> alternative energy than you know about the true workings of the CIA, and
> what's really going on in Washington D.C.
>
> Sincerely,
> kris book
>
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Subject: To my friends Brent and kris
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 13:42:09 -0500
This is a post that I did not want to send. I have
a great deal of respect for both of you. Like me,
you guys have strong feelings, are outspoken and are
very concerned. There is more going on here...much more
...than people are being told. I could make a very good
(and long) arguement for why I feel this way but this isn't
the place. Brent, being prepared is wise...not paranoid
(as many think). Everyone wants to get on with their lives
and make this all go away...I wish it would go away too but I
know it isn't. I still do my ordinary things and take time every
day to get away from everything, listen to some music and relax...
but I am also "planning for the worst, while hoping for the best".
The only the thing for certain is uncertainty ...
Kris, I didn't see what started all this but I think I have
a good idea. I'll write you offlist. Save your energy, guys...
we may need it.
peace...
mark
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human liberty;
it is the arguement if tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
William Pitt
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Subject: honda multi-fuel generator
From: "Mark Allen Wells"
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 14:05:35 -0500
Does anyone have any experience with the honda
multi-fuel generators that will run on gas, lp gas
or natural gas? I was just wondering how well they
worked. Brent, in an old note to me you said that
a diesel engine can run on natural gas. What modifications
need to be made? I know a gas engine needs a dry fuel
type carb.
mark
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Subject: Re: honda multi-fuel generator
From: "Brent Bingham"
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:26:15 -0700
Almost all diesels have a governor. If yours does, almost no changes are
necessary. Any metering valve with an auto cut off for the type of
alternate fuel you have must be placed in the air intake system. You start
the diesel, get it up to rpm, under load and start turning on the alternate
fuel. The governor automatically starts cutting off the diesel. We have
used; 100 proof alcohol, biogas, propane, natural gas, gasoline and "smoke"
from a special wood /trash incinerator.
You need to filter what ever you use and remember diesels need top end
lubrication. In a shortage you can stretch out you diesel a long time. You
can also add the used oil from the diesel back in the fuel if properly
filtered.
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From: "Mark Allen Wells"
To: "Aquaponics"
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 12:05 PM
Subject: honda multi-fuel generator
> Does anyone have any experience with the honda
> multi-fuel generators that will run on gas, lp gas
> or natural gas? I was just wondering how well they
> worked. Brent, in an old note to me you said that
> a diesel engine can run on natural gas. What modifications
> need to be made? I know a gas engine needs a dry fuel
> type carb.
>
> mark
>
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Subject: Re: Kang kong
From: "STEVE SPRING"
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 21:20:02 -0500
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From: "gerry magnuson"
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Kang kong
filipinos will eat anything alive or dead,
> I disagree with this and also take a little bit of offense. I have a lot
of Philippine friends. Philippinos are a class act people. They don't ask
for nor accept welfare, are hardworking people etc.<
I have seen soup made with potato leaves, elephant grass.
>So what is the difference between potato leaves, elephant grass etc. and
collard greens, turnips, etc. that we Southern folks love? Are we
degenerates as well in your opinion?<
everything from the pig cept the squeal..
>I personally love pig skins as do the Philippinos. Also, do most
Southerners We also like boiled peanuts. Guess that makes most Southerners
somewhat subhuman huh as most Philippinos are....I guess that I don't see
much difference.<
ever try pinut bit?
>No I haven't, cowboy...but, I would.<
..you may grow bitter melon,always in demand..
>They asked me about this, but it takes up too much space.<
..and long beans...cowboy
From: Mick
>Reply-To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
>To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
>Subject: Re: Kang kong
>Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 20:54:53 -0500
>
> >
> > Just my thoughts. GO PACU & KANG KONG!!
> >
> > Steve
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>
>I almost HAVE to grow something named Kang Kong... for the grin factor,
>if nothin' else.
>
>"What is that?"
>"Kang Kong"
>"No, REALLY.. what is that?"
>:)
>Mick
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Subject: Re: Kang kong
From: "STEVE SPRING"
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 21:32:58 -0500
Sorry Adrianna,
That is retail, but it doesn't matter. The stuff grows like a weed. I'm
constantly cutting it back and making more plants. The Philippinos are
amazed that I'm growing it...HAVE A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR SAMPLES...They are
just amazed. I concentrate on the Philippino population but this vegetable
is popular for all asian people. I tasted some tonight......guess what...it
taste good...kind of like a "meaty" (for lack of a better word) lettuce.
But, the bottom line is that it actually taste good.
Steve
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From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: Kang kong
Steve,
Is that $3.00 wholesale or retail?
> Gee Whiz!! Wonder if there is a market for this? Has to be imported
from
> NY...huh? Sells for $3.00/lb when they can get it. I can grow this
in my
> growbeds and it grows like crazy. Makes you think huh?
Adriana
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Subject: Re: Kang kong - water spinach
From: "STEVE SPRING"
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 21:33:49 -0500
I bought it locally in Milwaukee.
Steve
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From: "gutierrez-lagatta"
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: Kang kong - water spinach
Be sure to check with state regulators. I believe that water spinach
is considered an invasive (illegal) plant in some parts of the country
like Florida and possibly Texas?
> here are two good sites for info on kang kong
Adriana
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Subject: Re: Pacu and Paroon shark-Test Kits
From: "STEVE SPRING"
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 21:46:56 -0500
Hi Will,
I "rest my case" with the endorsement from my friend Steve (somewhere in
China...or wherever he is)......just watch your fish......"listen to your
fish" as I say....I haven't checked my water quality for months, but I
listen to my fish.
DON'T BUY ALL THAT EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT. IT ISN'T NECESSARY.
I'm going to be out of town for a few days, but I will, I hope, be available
@ careplus22.
Take care my friend.......Steve
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From: "Hurst, Steve ( China)"
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 5:44 AM
Subject: RE: Pacu and Paroon shark-Test Kits
Will,
I get my test kits Shipped over from the UK, as I have not
yet located a source in the Philipinnes.
These sites below will show you what they are,
http://www.reefkeeper.co.uk/pages/testkits.htm
http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/testkits.htm
however, there should be somebody else on the list who can give you a
supplier
in your area ( anybody ? )
I also use an Oxygen Meter.
I agree with Steve ( Mr Socially Insensitive ), that at first I was
using them all the time, but as time went on, and I got more comfortable
with
the system, I needed them less and less. The Fish and the Water Clarity are
good indicators. I still check them once a week,
but then, I have not been doing this for very long myself either.
I did find them useful for checking the water quality whilst the Filter
Bed was coming on line.
Steve H
SNIP
Your advice is practical. What more could I ask for? I'll watch the
fish, which arrive Saturday. Stripped bass hybrids.
I don't mind making mistakes once, but it is usually better to have
someone else make them for you. Thanks.
Will
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Subject: Re: Kang kong
From: "bennett"
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 22:48:00 -0400
>That is retail, but it doesn't matter. The stuff grows like a weed. I'm
>constantly cutting it back and making more plants. The Philippinos are
>amazed that I'm growing it...HAVE A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR SAMPLES...They are
>just amazed. I concentrate on the Philippino population but this vegetable
>is popular for all asian people. I tasted some tonight......guess what...it
>taste good...kind of like a "meaty" (for lack of a better word) lettuce.
>But, the bottom line is that it actually taste good.
>
How do you eat it? like lettuce? in a salad? 'fried'?
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