Aquaponics Digest - Sun 10/07/01



Message   1: Re: Irony of war
             from  (Bruce Schreiber)

Message   2: computer viruses
             from "Robert Rogers" 

Message   3: Start-up Cost - was: Where are you located?
             from Wade Yarbrough 

Message   4: Re: Irony of war
             from conrad wilkins 

Message   5: Re: Irony of war
             from "Frank Stancato" 

Message   6: Re: Irony of war
             from  (Bruce Schreiber)

Message   7: Re: Irony of war
             from "gerry magnuson" 

Message   8: Re: Start-up Cost - was: Where are you located?
             from "gerry magnuson" 

Message   9: Re: Irony of war
             from "Thomas Short" 

Message  10: Re: Irony of war - gerry magnuson To: aquaponics@townsqr
             from Jim Joyner <>

Message  11: Tiz true
             from conrad wilkins 

Message  12: Re: Tiz true
             from "Thomas Short" 

Message  13: Re:Kang kong (Kankon
             from Carolyn Hoagland 

Message  14: Re:Kang kong (Kankon
             from "gerry magnuson" 


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Subject: Re: Irony of war
From:     (Bruce Schreiber)
Date:    Sun, 7 Oct 2001 03:06:40 -0500 (CDT)

Conrad you seem to have your head screwed on right so I would not
disagree with you on much.
 Except  
 (thou shall not "kill") was changed from the hebrew it is           
 (You will not "Murder") is more correct.
   Also war is right if not going to war is encouraging Pirates to act
bolder. Murders such as that are only stopped by a violent death or the
REAL threat of one because they are Predators that live off of the flesh
of sheep like maybe you? Rapeing your wifes and kids in front of you as
you die to ad to the insult and horror!
 They kill good honest folks until a brave and lucky one twists a sword
in the murderers guts which tends to end the trend!
Now if we are not lucky and the murderer is supper smart and successful
he attracts other demon seed to his camp to join in on the feast and
great sex. they soon multiply and expand to become a government of
excesses as Rome once was .I ask you would not it have been better if
the hand full of butchers were caught and hanged before they grew in
strength and became an unstoppable Legion ? or is it better that they
Butcherd or enslaved MILLIONS
    I believe that all that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good
men to do nothing ,Soon it becomes a matter of to little to late as with
Hitler and the only possible way to stop them is an all out total war of
survival with an uncertain end!
    If we act now the end is certain we will end them !  It's just
Predator control my specialty.
                    Bruce



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Subject: computer viruses
From:    "Robert Rogers" 
Date:    Sun, 7 Oct 2001 10:11:48 -0400

Trend Micro has a free virus scan for computers it will also clean any
infected files.
http://housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/start_corp.asp





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Subject: Start-up Cost - was: Where are you located?
From:    Wade Yarbrough 
Date:    Sun, 7 Oct 2001 08:09:02 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 04 Oct 2001 12:22:57 -1000, cowboy wrote:
>  
>  congrats! really a class act...would it ask too much about how much you
have 
>  invested so far in your operation at this stage?...cowboy
>  
Around $12,000.  A rough breakdown is:
$1,000 greenhouse frame - used
$4,100 plastic tanks and growing beds
$2,000 site prep 
$  900 labor - did most of the work myself
$4,000 materials - lumber, PVC, pumps, fans, wire & fixtures, etc.

Wade





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Subject: Re: Irony of war
From:    conrad wilkins 
Date:    Sun, 07 Oct 2001 11:48:10 -0500


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    Its ironic to me that in my eyes you just also described the US war
machine and how theyve acted in the pursuit of globalisation of their ways
and beliefs on the rest of the world. To deny that the US has committed
atrocities in other countries in the name of freedom would, I feel, be total
ignorance. Portraying the US war machine as totaly uncorupt righteous and
angelic, seems to be the way the vast majority of the media want to portray
them.  Isnt it sex violence and eccess of consumption that is the biggest
seller in the Hollywood image. The one thast SELLS America. And I think
sells AMERICA very short.
 Isnt Murder determined by intent. Ie if you intend to kill someone then it
is concidered murder. But I guess thats OK if you commit murder to stop
murder???
    I dont remember war being refered to as OK in any of the religiouse
doctrines. Its definately not in any spiritual practice unless its against
the illusions of ones own psyche. It doesnt matter if its kill, murder, maim
,slaughter, torture, impail ,slash ! it all boils down to the same thing.
What are you, anyone , prepared to do in following youre true beliefes from
your heart. Youll lay your life down gladly but is it for your true belief
or is it what youve been told is the right thing to do by the fear
mongerers. A powerfull choice to make EH.


    Every gun that is made,every warship launched, every rocket fired
signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those that hunger and are not
fed, those who are cold and not clothed.
    This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat
of its labourers, the geniusof its scientists, the hopes of its children.
    The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in
more than thirty cities...
    We pay for a single fighter with a half million bushels of wheat.
    We pay for a single destroyer with homes that could have housed more
than eight thousand people.
    This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road the
world has been taking.
    This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense.
    Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross
of iron.

A speach by Dwight Eisonhower in 1953.



Bruce Schreiber wrote:

> Conrad you seem to have your head screwed on right so I would not
> disagree with you on much.
>  Except
>  (thou shall not "kill") was changed from the hebrew it is
>  (You will not "Murder") is more correct.
>    Also war is right if not going to war is encouraging Pirates to act
> bolder. Murders such as that are only stopped by a violent death or the
> REAL threat of one because they are Predators that live off of the flesh
> of sheep like maybe you? Rapeing your wifes and kids in front of you as
> you die to ad to the insult and horror!
>  They kill good honest folks until a brave and lucky one twists a sword
> in the murderers guts which tends to end the trend!
> Now if we are not lucky and the murderer is supper smart and successful
> he attracts other demon seed to his camp to join in on the feast and
> great sex. they soon multiply and expand to become a government of
> excesses as Rome once was .I ask you would not it have been better if
> the hand full of butchers were caught and hanged before they grew in
> strength and became an unstoppable Legion ? or is it better that they
> Butcherd or enslaved MILLIONS
>     I believe that all that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good
> men to do nothing ,Soon it becomes a matter of to little to late as with
> Hitler and the only possible way to stop them is an all out total war of
> survival with an uncertain end!
>     If we act now the end is certain we will end them !  It's just
> Predator control my specialty.
>                     Bruce

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    Its ironic to me that in my eyes you just also described
the US war machine and how theyve acted in the pursuit of globalisation
of their ways and beliefs on the rest of the world. To deny that the US
has committed atrocities in other countries in the name of freedom would,
I feel, be total ignorance. Portraying the US war machine as totaly uncorupt
righteous and angelic, seems to be the way the vast majority of the media
want to portray them.  Isnt it sex violence and eccess of consumption
that is the biggest seller in the Hollywood image. The one thast SELLS
America. And I think sells AMERICA very short.

 Isnt Murder determined by intent. Ie if you intend to kill someone then it is concidered murder. But I guess thats OK if you commit murder to stop murder???
    I dont remember war being refered to as OK in any of the religiouse doctrines. Its definately not in any spiritual practice unless its against the illusions of ones own psyche. It doesnt matter if its kill, murder, maim ,slaughter, torture, impail ,slash ! it all boils down to the same thing. What are you, anyone , prepared to do in following youre true beliefes from your heart. Youll lay your life down gladly but is it for your true belief or is it what youve been told is the right thing to do by the fear mongerers. A powerfull choice to make EH.
 

    Every gun that is made,every warship launched, every rocket fired  signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those that hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.
    This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its labourers, the geniusof its scientists, the hopes of its children.
    The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than thirty cities...
    We pay for a single fighter with a half million bushels of wheat.
    We pay for a single destroyer with homes that could have housed more than eight thousand people.
    This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking.
    This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense.
    Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.

A speach by Dwight Eisonhower in 1953.
 
 

Bruce Schreiber wrote:

Conrad you seem to have your head screwed on right so I would not
disagree with you on much.
 Except
 (thou shall not "kill") was changed from the hebrew it is
 (You will not "Murder") is more correct.
   Also war is right if not going to war is encouraging Pirates to act
bolder. Murders such as that are only stopped by a violent death or the
REAL threat of one because they are Predators that live off of the flesh
of sheep like maybe you? Rapeing your wifes and kids in front of you as
you die to ad to the insult and horror!
 They kill good honest folks until a brave and lucky one twists a sword
in the murderers guts which tends to end the trend!
Now if we are not lucky and the murderer is supper smart and successful
he attracts other demon seed to his camp to join in on the feast and
great sex. they soon multiply and expand to become a government of
excesses as Rome once was .I ask you would not it have been better if
the hand full of butchers were caught and hanged before they grew in
strength and became an unstoppable Legion ? or is it better that they
Butcherd or enslaved MILLIONS
    I believe that all that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good
men to do nothing ,Soon it becomes a matter of to little to late as with
Hitler and the only possible way to stop them is an all out total war of
survival with an uncertain end!
    If we act now the end is certain we will end them !  It's just
Predator control my specialty.
                    Bruce
--------------2ADE756567B6DCED787C0DF7-- .------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------. | Message 5 | '------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------' Subject: Re: Irony of war From: "Frank Stancato" Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 15:16:13 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C14F43.00974000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Conrad, intent is specific for individuals as well as governments in = determining whether an act is murder or self defense. Read St. = Augustine's 'Just War' paper for a clearer indication of what is going = on. One of the reasons government was formed was an effort to protect its = citizens from attacks from governments or terrorists. Dwight Eisonhower's quote also came from a man that did not shy away = from leading the largest army America ever fielded against tyranny in = Europe. Frank ----- Original Message -----=20 From: conrad wilkins=20 To: aquaponics@townsqr.com=20 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Irony of war Isnt Murder determined by intent. Ie if you intend to kill someone = then it is concidered murder. But I guess thats OK if you commit murder = to stop murder???=20 I dont remember war being refered to as OK in any of the = religiouse doctrines. Its definately not in any spiritual practice = unless its against the illusions of ones own psyche. It doesnt matter if = its kill, murder, maim ,slaughter, torture, impail ,slash ! it all boils = down to the same thing. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C14F43.00974000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Conrad, intent is specific for individuals as well as governments = in=20 determining whether an act is murder or self defense.  Read St. = Augustine's=20 'Just War' paper for a clearer indication of what is going on.
 
One of the reasons government was formed was an effort to = protect=20 its citizens from attacks from governments or terrorists.
 
Dwight Eisonhower's quote also came from a man that did not shy = away from=20 leading the largest army America ever fielded against tyranny in = Europe.
 
Frank
 
 
 
 
 
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From:=20 conrad wilkins
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 = 12:48=20 PM
Subject: Re: Irony of = war
 Isnt=20 Murder determined by intent. Ie if you intend to kill someone then it = is=20 concidered murder. But I guess thats OK if you commit murder to stop = murder???=20
    I dont remember war being refered to as OK in = any of=20 the religiouse doctrines. Its definately not in any spiritual practice = unless=20 its against the illusions of ones own psyche. It doesnt matter if its = kill,=20 murder, maim ,slaughter, torture, impail ,slash ! it all boils down to = the=20 same thing.
------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C14F43.00974000-- .------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------. | Message 6 | '------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------' Subject: Re: Irony of war From: (Bruce Schreiber) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 16:17:56 -0500 (CDT) Conrad I believe war is wrong because mostly you must kill masses of people that are forced to fight against you to get to the true Heartless bastards that wanted and caused the conflict in the first place.This I believe you would agree with me on. I instead advocate weeding the garden. When the butchers first show their true character and begin living outside of the laws of civilization we assign a small group of accountants to map out their movements and at the proper time assist them with a fatal accident or a suicide. This keeps all of thoughs families intact that would have been devastated by war and is very low cost. We could befriend the despots and bribe them with expensive things, jets that they can fly to meetings with us. Jets that we can control from the ground so we could dial a crash once we have an actual member of civilization on hand to replace them in their land.Doing it my way will not generate the mass poverty that breeds terrorists effectively ending that problem to. But hey I am biased by a sneaky Pete background .If they would have turned my kind loose sooner we would have stopped this bullshit from ever happening stone cold. About now we are back in Iraq looking to do the deed while the world is focused on Ben LaDin in Afghanistan. You know I could use a little Sun about now. About our US armies acting like the Romans I don't think so! We do not carry off whole populations into slavery,Casterating their men and boys to be used as draft animals and meat for the coliseum animals after they are killed for sport while raping their wives and daughters as a matter policy at least to my knowledge perhaps you could enlighten me on that matter Bruce .------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------. | Message 7 | '------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------' Subject: Re: Irony of war From: "gerry magnuson" Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 12:18:13 -1000 aloha, COMRADE willy, on your way to communist utopia, stand aside while those that believe in rights and freedoms protect your way...howz your fish doin'? are you growing buds for medicinal use or relief from reality...? don't cross the line...cowboy .------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------. | Message 8 | '------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------' Subject: Re: Start-up Cost - was: Where are you located? From: "gerry magnuson" Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 12:21:51 -1000 howdy, about right on the costs...good show....am located by marion, va...southwest... >From: Wade Yarbrough >Reply-To: aquaponics@townsqr.com >To: aquaponics@townsqr.com >Subject: Start-up Cost - was: Where are you located? >Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 08:09:02 -0700 (PDT) > >On Thu, 04 Oct 2001 12:22:57 -1000, cowboy wrote: > > > > congrats! really a class act...would it ask too much about how much you >have > > invested so far in your operation at this stage?...cowboy > > >Around $12,000. A rough breakdown is: >$1,000 greenhouse frame - used >$4,100 plastic tanks and growing beds >$2,000 site prep >$ 900 labor - did most of the work myself >$4,000 materials - lumber, PVC, pumps, fans, wire & fixtures, etc. > >Wade > > > > > >_______________________________________________________ >Send a cool gift with your E-Card >http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > .------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------. | Message 9 | '------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------' Subject: Re: Irony of war From: "Thomas Short" Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 17:05:29 -0700 ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C14F52.44E73440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok People enough is enough! There two things you should not talk about in= a group. 1. religion =20 2. politics You will never change any ones mind on either all you will do is lose fri= ends. =20 Because of the other definition of WAR which is: W =3D We A =3D Are R =3D Right Now you have been doing this for two days now. Its time to get back to th= e resin this group was formed. That is " Aquaponics ". =20 If you think that you want to keep on the same topic Please do it off the= list. =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: gerry magnuson Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 3:31 PM To: aquaponics@townsqr.com Subject: Re: Irony of war =20 aloha, COMRADE willy, on your way to communist utopia, stand aside while those that believe in rights and freedoms protect your way...howz your fi= sh doin'? are you growing buds for medicinal use or relief from reality...? don't cross the line...cowboy http://explorer.msn.com/intl.as= pGet more from the Web. 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Ok People enou= gh is enough! There two things you should not talk about in a group.
 
1. religion  
 
= 2. politics
 
You will never change any ones m= ind on either all you will do is lose friends.
Because of the= other definition of WAR which is:
 
W =3D We<= /DIV>
A =3D Are
R =3D Right
 
= Now you have been doing this for two days now. Its time to get back to th= e resin this group was formed. That is " Aquaponics ".
 <= /DIV>
If you think that you want to keep on the same topic Please do= it off the list.
 
----- Original = Message -----
From: gerry magnuson
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 3:31 PM
To: aquaponics@townsqr.com
Subject: Re: Irony of war
 
=
aloha, COMRADE willy, on your way to communist utopia, stand aside wh= ile
those that believe in rights and freedoms protect your way...howz = your fish
doin'? are you growing buds for medicinal use or relief from= reality...?
don't cross the line...cowboy



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------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C14F52.44E73440-- .------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------. | Message 10 | '------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------' Subject: Re: Irony of war - gerry magnuson To: aquaponics@townsqr From: Jim Joyner <> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 19:07:21 -0500 Is this supposed to be cute? At 12:18 PM 10/7/2001 -1000, you wrote: >aloha, COMRADE willy, on your way to communist utopia, stand aside while >those that believe in rights and freedoms protect your way...howz your >fish doin'? are you growing buds for medicinal use or relief from >reality...? don't cross the line...cowboy .------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------. | Message 11 | '------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------' Subject: Tiz true From: conrad wilkins Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 18:01:46 -0500 --------------C0D043DF24736F7D4B392FC3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kris et al. Yes I do feel that this was a wrong topic to feed into I apologise for taking it up on this AQUAPONICS list. I do not wish to argue right or wrongs with any of you as I cannot say what is right or wrong for you. Bless you all and lets live in peace amongst ourselves at least. I do have a question for the list ON TOPIC. How long does it take aprox for the fish in your tanks to start producing enough fodder for the bacteria. Asuming your starting with small fry?? I supose its all dependent on numbers and volumes of tanks eh? Do you have to furst suplement the water suply to the beds with doping of some kind (fertiliser) till the fish are producing the stuff well?? --------------C0D043DF24736F7D4B392FC3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  
Kris et al.

    Yes I do feel that this was a wrong topic to feed into I apologise for taking it up on this AQUAPONICS list. I do not wish to argue right or wrongs with any of you as I cannot say what is right or wrong for you. Bless you all and lets live in peace amongst ourselves at least.
 

I do have a question for the list ON TOPIC.

How long does it take aprox for the fish in your tanks to start producing enough fodder for the bacteria. Asuming your starting with small fry??
    I supose its all dependent on numbers and volumes of tanks eh?
Do you have to furst suplement the water suply to the beds with doping of some kind (fertiliser) till the fish are producing the stuff well??
  --------------C0D043DF24736F7D4B392FC3-- .------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------. | Message 12 | '------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------' Subject: Re: Tiz true From: "Thomas Short" Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 19:51:41 -0700 ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C14F69.7C6A82C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well there you run into the catch 22! You need the fish to produce waste = to get the gravel beds bacteria Working to make the nitrates for the plan= ts, you need plants to use the nitrates. If the gravel beds don't convert= the ammonia in to nitrates the fish will die. If you don't have enough n= itrates the plants will die. I have a 3500 gal tank in which I put 1200 fingerlings which had a total = of 1.5 lbs. when I got them. Don't make much waste at that size. So I pum= ped the water from the tank to the grow beds continuously and planted som= e plants that are like weeds that grow in wet soil like sweet potatoes, T= aro, basil water lettuces just to have some plants to get every thing wor= king. It may be a good idea to plant mug beans, Alfa or some other sprout= s that you can use until the fish get big enough. In one place plan a few plants that you what for a cash crop and watch th= em if there is not enough nitrites for them they will be spindly and not = meteor. Pull them and feed them to the fish and re plant a few more and w= atch them. Watch your fish they will tell you if some is wrong in the tank! Watch yo= ur plants they will tell you if something is wrong also. After your first fish harvest If you keep thing going you should have no = more problems. WE ALL HOPE FOR THAT ANY WAY! =20 ----- Original Message ----- I do have a question for the list ON TOPIC. =20 How long does it take aprox for the fish in your tanks to start producing= enough fodder for the bacteria. Asuming your starting with small fry?? =20 I supose its all dependent on numbers and volumes of tanks eh? =20 Do you have to furst suplement the water suply to the beds with doping of= some kind (fertiliser) till the fish are producing the stuff well?? =20 Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.ms= n.com ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C14F69.7C6A82C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well there you= run into the catch 22! You need the fish to produce waste to get the gra= vel beds bacteria Working to make the nitrates for the plants, you need p= lants to use the nitrates. If the gravel beds don't convert the ammonia i= n to nitrates the fish will die. If you don't have enough nitrates the pl= ants will die.
 
I have a 3500 gal tank in whi= ch I put 1200 fingerlings which had a total of 1.5 lbs. when I got them. = Don't make much waste at that size. So I pumped the water from the tank t= o the grow beds continuously and planted some plants that are like weeds = that grow in wet soil like sweet potatoes, Taro, basil water lettuces jus= t to have some plants to get every thing working. It may be a good idea t= o plant mug beans, Alfa or some other sprouts that you can use until the = fish get big enough.
 
In one place plan a few= plants that you what for a cash crop and watch them if there is not enou= gh nitrites for them they will be spindly and not meteor. Pull them and f= eed them to the fish and re plant a few more and watch them.
&= nbsp;
Watch your fish they will tell you if some is wrong in t= he tank! Watch your plants they will tell you if something is wrong also.=
 
After your first fish harvest If you keep t= hing going you should have no more problems.
 
 WE ALL HOPE FOR THAT ANY WAY!
 
----- Original Message -----
 

I do have a question for= the list ON TOPIC.

How long does it take aprox for the fish in your = tanks to start producing enough fodder for the bacteria. Asuming your sta= rting with small fry??
    I supose its all dependent = on numbers and volumes of tanks eh?
Do you have to furst suplement th= e water suply to the beds with doping of some kind (fertiliser) till the = fish are producing the stuff well??
 



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<= /p> ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C14F69.7C6A82C0-- .------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------. | Message 13 | '------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------' Subject: Re:Kang kong (Kankon From: Carolyn Hoagland Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 21:53:14 -0500 Thanks for the links. One of them mentioned that "Sweet potato shoots tips and leaves sometimes substitute for water convolvulus". Have any on you ever tasted sweet potato leaves or shoots? Isn't it odd, I assumed that because Irish potato tops were poisonous, sweet potato tops were too. Duh, I should have known better by the way I have to keep row covers on my sweet potatoes to keep the deer out of them. Carolyn .------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------. | Message 14 | '------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------' Subject: Re:Kang kong (Kankon From: "gerry magnuson" Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 16:55:49 -1000 do you have 'yams' or sweetpotato? >From: Carolyn Hoagland >Reply-To: aquaponics@townsqr.com >To: aquaponics@townsqr.com >Subject: Re:Kang kong (Kankon >Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 21:53:14 -0500 > >Thanks for the links. One of them mentioned that "Sweet potato shoots >tips and leaves sometimes substitute for water convolvulus". Have any >on you ever tasted sweet potato leaves or shoots? Isn't it odd, I >assumed that because Irish potato tops were poisonous, sweet potato >tops were too. Duh, I should have known better by the way I have to >keep row covers on my sweet potatoes to keep the deer out of them. > >Carolyn

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